Talk:Van Cortlandt Park

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that Van Cortlandt Park contains both the Bronx's oldest building and the United States' oldest public golf course?

Relative Size Error

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"Attractions

Van Cortlandt Park is the third largest park in New York City, behind Central and Prospect Parks.[144]"

The area is given as 1,146 acres.

The area of Central Park is given in its article as 843 acres.

Something is wrong somewhere.

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Reviewer: Sportsguy17 (talk · contribs) 21:18, 2 August 2017 (UTC)Reply


I'll review this GAN. Sorry it took so long to get a reviewer. I'll post some initial feedback shortly. Sportsguy17 (TC) 21:18, 2 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Sportsguy17: It's no problem, really. Thanks for doing the review. epicgenius (talk) 00:06, 3 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Epicgenius: On a quick skim of the article, I am fairly impressed with what I see; very thorough and well-sourced. My first task for you is to check for any dead links. I didn't see any bare references on my first pass which is a good sign. More to come soon. Sportsguy17 (TC) 21:29, 2 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

  Done. The single dead link was fixed. epicgenius (talk) 00:08, 3 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Epicgenius: Alright here's my feedback for the first few sections. I'll come back to the lede later because I couldn't seem to think of anything specific at the moment.

History
  • Third paragraph has a lot of typos and some grammatical issues, including random commas being there for no reason. So make sure that paragraph (and the rest of the section) is cleaned up.   Done
Planning
  • In the last sentence of the first paragraph, I think there should be a "the" before "New York State Legislature".   Done
  • In the second-last sentence of the last paragraph, I don't think there needs to be a comma between "site" and "at"   Done
    • Change that short last sentence, have the third last sentence say "The service ended in 1942."   Done
Creation
  • In the second sentence of the third paragraph between "1899" and "there".   Done
  • In the fourth paragraph it can just say "..., but construction was delayed." instead of "but, also, construction was delayed."   Done

Per usual, I would also say give these sections a thorough copy edit. Hope these suggestions help. Sportsguy17 (TC) 20:50, 5 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Epicgenius: Have you gotten to address any of the above feedback yet? Sportsguy17 (TC) 17:57, 8 August 2017 (UTC)Reply
@Sportsguy17: No, sorry. I didn't get your pings. I'll do it tomorrow when I have more time. epicgenius (talk) 03:43, 9 August 2017 (UTC)Reply
@Sportsguy17: I've resolved all of the issues you've outlined above. epicgenius (talk) 20:33, 11 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

Hi Epicgenius, sorry I haven't gotten you additional feedback. I will get that out on Sunday, but I'm taking a short personal trip between tomorrow and Saturday night so I won't have a lot of time to edit between then. My apologies. Sportsguy17 (TC) 03:24, 17 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

No problem. I am on vacation too until Monday, so take your time. epicgenius (talk) 07:09, 17 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Epicgenius: Sorry for the major delay, it was an insanely busy week, but here's the rest of my feedback:

Early Years
  • I assume after the third sentence of the first paragraph there should be a period there and not a comma, correct?   Done
  • In the third paragraph, replace "cross-country running track" with "cross-country running course".   Done
Decline
  • No major issues of note here.
Improvements
  • Replace "2022–2023" with 2022 or 2023. It just flows better I feel like.   Done
  • Change "The park's paths would also be restored. There would be three new pedestrian bridges, a playground, four activity centers (two outdoors, two indoors), a skate park, an athletic field, and three basketball courts built within the park." to "The park's paths would also be restored with the addition of three new pedestrian bridges, a playground, four activity centers (two outdoors, two indoors), a skate park, an athletic field, and three basketball courts built within the park."   Done
Recreation
  • Replace "The cricket fields were renovated in 2010–2013 for $13 million." with "The cricket fields were renovated between 2010 and 2013 at a cost of $13 million."   Done
  • Change "1.5-mile track for cross country running" to "1.5 mile course for cross country running."   Done
  • Should be "date back to 1907.", not "date to 1907."   Done
Golf
  • Change "The course became 18 holes in 1899" to "The course was expanded to 18 holes in 1899."   Done
  • In the last paragraph, change "were renovated in 2007–2014 for $5 million." to "were renovated between 2007 and 2014 at a cost of $5 million."   Done
Running
  • After "cross-country running" in the first paragraph, add a comma. Also, unlink the phrase "cross-country running" because it's been linked in the article already."   Done
  • In the last sentence of the second paragraph, replace "though" with "however".   Done

Let's start here. If you make the above changes, I can wrap up the review with suggestions for the final few sections. Good luck with the changes and apologies for the delay. Sportsguy17 (TC) 14:27, 27 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the feedback. I will get to these corrections tomorrow. epicgenius (talk) 21:38, 27 August 2017 (UTC)Reply
@Sportsguy17: I resolved all of the issues. epicgenius (talk) 03:34, 28 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Epicgenius: Alright final round of changes. You're doing great so far.

Waterways
  • In the second paragraph, I'm a bit confused by the last little bit about the women. Do you mean people in general or just women? And if you meant women, was is the significance of it being women?   Done, removed.
Geology and geography
  • In the second sentence of the first paragraph, add "In addition,..." and remove "that".   Done
  • In the second sentence of the second paragraph, add "a" in between "have" and "steep."   Done
Trails
  • In the second sentence of the section, add a comma between "Yonkers" and "where" to make it less of a run-on sentence.   Done
  • In the last sentence of the third paragraph, replace "over" with "due to a".   Done
  • Replace " One can see various species of trees and flowering plants along the trail, such as northern red oak, sweetgum, and tulips." with " Various species of trees and flowering plants can be seen along the trail, such as northern red oak, sweetgum, and tulips.   Done
Landmarks
  • This section is fine. Perhaps a few tweaks here and there but that can be fixed with a final round of copy-editing later on.   Done
Management
  • There is only one suggestion I have for this section and it's a bit of a murky one. In the last sentence, replace the colon with a period and make the last bit its own sentence. I don't feel as though a colon is quite the right punctuation to use for that part, albeit I'm not sure a period is either, so I will let you decide what you think is best here.   Partly done
Roads
  • In the second sentence of the second paragraph, replace "needed rebuilding" with "needed to be rebuilt."   Done
  • In the last sentence, can you verify that the fact from 2014 is still true? It probably is but updating it would be nice.   Done
Mass transit
  • This section looks good.
In popular culture
  • In the second entry, change the second sentence to "However, none of the scenes were filmed in the Bronx."   Done
Lede
  • This part of the article is where my biggest problems lie. For an article that lengthy and detailed, the lede should be a bit longer than it currently is. I will, for the most part, let you figure out how you want to work it, but if you need suggestions for how to expand it, I'm happy to assist. Once you fix the lede, do one final round of tweaking/copy-editing to make sure everything flows well and then we should be all set. Keep up the good work. Sportsguy17 (TC) 19:25, 29 August 2017 (UTC)Reply
@Sportsguy17: Thanks for this final round of feedback. Would you mind looking at the new lead? I'd appreciate it. epicgenius (talk) 21:53, 29 August 2017 (UTC)Reply
@Epicgenius: That's quite an improvement on the lede, thank you! And kudos to you for addressing a relatively lengthy litany of feedback. Good work on the article, I have passed it to GA. Sportsguy17 (TC) 14:48, 30 August 2017 (UTC)Reply
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