Talk:Vanderbilt Peabody College of Education and Human Development
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Richer man
editGeorge Peabody donated the money, not George Foster Peabody, who was born in 1852. Peabody College is not named for George Foster Peabody, it is named for George Peabody (1795-1869), the richer man, who established the Peabody Education Fund in 1867. StatesmanVelocicaptor 13:00, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
New International Encyclopedia
editHere is text that says that the money was presented in 1867 when George Foster Peabody was only 15 years old. Rich George Peabody (1795-1969) donated the money.
referring to students' race
editI've reverted a change that StatesmanVelocicaptor made to the article, which is to change the sentence reading "It was located on the site of the campus of the former Roger Williams University, a school for African American students which burned around 1906." to contain a reference to either "colored students" or "Negros". If the school were originally called "Roger Williams University for Colored People" or something like that, then I could see why one might want to use that term instead of "African Americans". But it wasn't, so I don't think it's appropriate to use a racially charged term when a more neutral one will suffice. Esrever 16:26, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
12-years old children
editChildren may be editors in Wikipedia, so they should not be criticized for their words. They simply do not know any better. I would not be surprised to see someone return George Foster Peabody to being the namesake of Peabody College. I have tried to correct that error. As for "African Americans," I have seen a wealth of reasonings put forth for including that crazy, stupid, idiotic term in many, many articles. I expect that some editors will delete my words on this talk page, just as they have deleted my words on other talk pages. Wikipedia has (or had, at one time) a policy that allowed words on talk pages to be uneditable. Wikipedia seems to be haunted by 12-years old children who adore the term "African Americans." StatesmanVelocicaptor 08:52, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for catching the George Peabody versus George Foster Peabody distinction. It never occurred to the rest of the editors of this article to double check that.
- Unfortunately, I still have to disagree with your assertion that only "12-years old children . . . adore the term 'African Americans.'" In looking through some of your previous contributions under other usernames, I've noticed that this topic has obviously come up before for you. But using terms like colored or Negro in the context of a 21st-century encyclopedia is not acceptable, despite your own personal opinions on the topic. You're free to edit this (and any other) article as you see fit, but trying to include terms that now have racist connotations is an edit that's always going to be reverted here. Esrever 16:13, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
- I see no "racist connotations" associated with the word Negro which has been in use for 500 years. I see "racist connotations" in the term "African American" which is an invention that emerged from too much fantasizing. Every time that I say Negro or Colored in Wikipedia, someone will have a fit. There are plenty of objectors who have their eyeballs peeled awaiting the appearance of those two words so that they can make replacements by changing them to "African American," which is a laughable term.StatesmanVelocicaptor 06:47, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Tut-Tut, now who sounds like the 12-year-old child who is certain their view of the world must be right. There are as many opionions of the term Negro and Colored as there are computers in America. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.207.242.34 (talk) 16:25, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Opinion, or Fact?
editThe history section includes the following passage:
"... but cynics noted that Peabody did have a major in physical education, a major frequently taken by scholarship athletes but one which had not been available at Vanderbilt, and was seen by many as an attempt to get players onto Vanderbilt sports teams, notably football, who were not eligible for admission to Vanderbilt."
This is uncited and reads like editorializing (as well as a derogatory comment about college athletes), not a statement of fact. I would recommend that it be removed, unless someone can come up with one or more reliable citations to show that it is a factual reality. -- Entrybreak (talk) 16:05, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
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Coordinate college?
editDid the Peabody school ever operate as a female-only institution, therefore as a coordinate college, linked to a nearby men's school? If so, it should be listed here: List of coordinate colleges Jax MN (talk) 18:17, 23 March 2024 (UTC)