Talk:Variant angina

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Nicely done JfdWolff

DocJohnny 22:50, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks DocJohnny. There is probably more to add here. PS you will notice my obsession for finding original citations! JFW | T@lk 00:42, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Hi! The journal reference link links to a page without content... I guess its not available for online viewing, in which case, should the pubmed link be there if it doesnt lead to the article? Ged3000 19:58, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Outcomes

Patients with Prinzmetal's Angina are at greater risk for heart attacks and sudden death than the general population. This makes the failure to diagnose Prinzmetal's particularly disturbing, since it is found in 2%-10% of patients exhibiting angina, but does not fit the typical angina patient and can have such a catastrophic outcome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.255.175.98 (talk) 03:20, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Interesting. Please state some sources for this information. --98.70.42.194 (talk) 19:12, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Acetylcholine as a direct cause of vasoconstriction

Hmm, I haven't really been able to source it from other Wikipedia articles, but from what I've been reading (Tortora), Acetycholine indirectly causes vasoconstriction, not directly.Creat0r (talk) 13:30, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

occurs most commonly at night

i think it should be clarified i have read in one source it occurs anywhere between midnight and morning and another one saying most commonly in the morning. AriaNo11 (talk) 05:22, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

pronounce

Prinzmetal's or Prinzmetal angina (/ˈprɪntsmɛtəl/, sounds like "prints metal"): correction - first syllable just as it is spelled, prinz (no 'T'). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.79.123.2 (talk) 03:47, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

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Requested move 2 April 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved as requested, per the discussion below. If Vasopastic angina becomes a more common term than Variant angina, this can be revisited at that time. Dekimasuよ! 21:42, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

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Prinzmetal's angina → Variant angina – More usually used name - has the lead in searches over the other aka Vasospastic angina. Used by Medscape and registers more on ngrams Iztwoz (talk) 17:24, 2 April 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. –Ammarpad (talk) 16:26, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

• I fully agree that Prinzmetal's angina should be renamed. However, the most recent scientific literature reviews specifically states that the preferred name for this angina should be vasospastic angina (VSA).. Strictly speaking, however, there is a slight difference between classical Prinzmetal's angina and vasospastic angina. As initially described by Prinzmetal, which he originally named variant angina, his patients' ECG's showed elevations in their ST segments as a benchmark finding. Vasspastic angina does not require this for diagnosis in individuals that have the other criteria for the disorder. joflaher (talk) 10:15, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello joflaher, you have picked out two papers one is not a review, out of many others that use Variant angina. A better more recent review is PMID 29520510 of March 2018. Also every link in the infobox gives Variant angina as the first aka of Prinzmetal's angina - there is no mention of vasospastic angina in any of them. Lastly Google search brings up 77.6 K for Vasospastic and 103K for Variant. --Iztwoz (talk) 10:39, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank your for your input. I probably am confused by a part of your statement. Both citations that I list here are considered reviews by PubMED (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Variant+angina+and+review) and both use vasospastic angina in their titles. My point, which is a small one, suggests using vasospastic angina because I think the current trend is to do so. Prinzmetal's angina and its synonym, variant angina, require that a sufferer's ECG show ST elevations during an attack. Vasospastic angina does not. Individuals that show all of the features of variant angina/Prinzmetal's angina except ST elevations have, form a pathophysiologic and clinical point of view, the same disorder as variant angina/Prinzmetal's andgina. If it is felt that the disorder should be named variant angina based on Google search hits or other reasons, that's fine with me. Whichever you choose, I will appropriately edit the article to ensure it focuses on the selected name. Again, thanks. joflaher (talk) 10:25, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

One of the 'reviews' is listed as an editorial on the page. Firstly it's not a question of the name i choose. That's the point of the notice. I agree with you that the trend seems to be (looking at ngrams) towards Vasospastic but trends change. At the moment Variant angina is in the lead - it may stay in the lead it may not - the present is all that can be looked at. (in order to vote one way or the other it's needed to place a Support or Oppose in bold.) Best --Iztwoz (talk) 16:38, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello joflaher this has been relisted - since you wrote that you didn't mind what the first name change was and you agreed for a name change - could you please note your support - as i pointed out it is at the moment the preferred name.--Iztwoz (talk) 16:31, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

I support changing the page name of Prinzmetal's angina to Variant angina and will make appropriate changes (e.g. changing Prinzmetal's or vasopastic angina to variant angina) to the article's text after the page's title is changed.joflaher (talk) 1:29, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

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