Talk:Vaulter (Succession)

Undiscussed move reverted

curprev 23:15, 2 May 2022‎ Liz talk contribs‎ 68 bytes +68‎ Liz moved page Vaulter (Succession) to Vaulter: No other page named Vaulter on Wikipedia

Sorry reverted, that would best deserve a RM.

See also Gbooks "a vaulter" Outside the sport pole vaulter is the normal term, but GBooks shows within the sport "a vaulter" and "the vaulter" referring to pole vaulter not to a US TV episode. Most of these episodes have (Succession) why not this one? In ictu oculi (talk) 19:27, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 28 May 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. DAB created. (closed by non-admin page mover) CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (please mention me on reply) 23:29, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

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Vaulter (Succession) → Vaulter – Nothing else titled "Valuter" to disambiguate from. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 19:31, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:Disambiguation and WP:NOPRIMARY in WP:RS and long-term significance In ictu oculi (talk) 19:35, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose: The term could refer to a pole vaulter or a gymnastic vaulter or an equestrian vaulter. Those are topics with greater long-term significance. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:03, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
• Support per nomination. Vaulter redirects to Vaulter (Succession), thus indicating that the parenthetical qualifier is unnecessary. Category:Succession (TV series) confirms that only episodes with non-unique titles use "(Succession)" as a qualifier. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 23:37, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

It's only a redirect because someone did an undiscussed move on top of Vaulter which should have been a dab to pole vaulter or a gymnastic vaulter or an equestrian vaulter. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:49, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

Neither the revision history of Vaulter nor the revision history of Vaulter (Succession) shows any undiscussed moves that had overridden a putative Vaulter disambiguation page or that had overridden a Vaulter redirect to any vaulting page, such as Pole vault. As for the move of Vaulter (Succession) to Vaulter, it was a simple technical move since a main title header without a parenthetical qualifier does not redirect to the same header with a qualifier. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 22:57, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

The history shows that this page was created as Vaulter (Succession) in September 2020, then attempted to be cut-and-paste moved to Vaulter, which was red at that point, in November 2020, then moved (over the mess created from that cut-and-paste move) to the undisambiguated title in May 2022. An admin would need to check the deleted history of Vaulter to see what was going on then, and where it pointed between November 2020 and May 2022.

Whatever - this move is clearly not passing, but I seem to have at least revealed the existence of a missing disambiguation page, so this isn't entirely for naught. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:05, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose "Vaulter" should be a disambiguation page, per BarrelProof -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 23:45, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose and create dabpage. 162 etc. (talk) 02:43, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose And disambiguate per others. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:54, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose + DAB per others. The suggestion that the episode of Succession is the primary topic is pure recentism. Walt Yoder (talk) 21:41, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose. Obviously. And create a disambiguation page. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:20, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

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