Talk:Vega (Street Fighter)

Name

Shouldn't the characters' -real- names be used for the most part, and the alternate "let's not get sued by Mike Tyson" names be the ones listed as an aside? This guy is Balrog. The guy in red is Vega. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.106.93.177 (talk • contribs)

• No. This is an English Wikipedia, and English names are used. The English name of the matador is Vega, period. Danny Lilithborne 21:44, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
• I highly disagree. Regardless of it being an English Encyclopedia or not, the goal is for accurate information. The name of this character is Balrog. It has been for years. Most people outside the U.S. know him as such. The original name should always be used in factual articles. Coolgamer 18:36, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Uh, no. Balrog is his JAPANESE name. It's Vega everywhere else. Danny Lilithborne 03:28, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
    • And who created the game? Capcom of Japan had nothing to do with the name change. Coolgamer 17:35, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
      • Can you prove that? It was fear of a lawsuit that prompted the name swapping. 1. Can you give a source that says CoJ had nothing to do with it and 2. can you show how that's relevant to an English Wikipedia? Danny Lilithborne 17:40, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
      • Instead of drawing this out, I opened a Mediaton Cabal case for this, so we can get a neutral party to comment. Danny Lilithborne 23:54, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

• • • • First of all. This is the ENGLISH Wikipedia, NOT the Japanophile Wikipedia. When people look for Vega (Street Fighter), they're gonna expect the "Spanish Ninja", not the "Shadoloo dictator". And secondly, YES, Capcom of Japan IS involved with the name changes, considering it was them that to recode the game for the American/Worldwide markets to integrate the name changes. Jonny2x4 23:38, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

• • • • • Thinking like that, the hadouken article should be titled "Ball of fire", because that's what it was called in the American version of the first game. Or, in the similar manner, name the Tekkaman Blade article "Teknoman", because that's how the American edited version is titled. Really, the world doesn't begin and end in America. M3n747 (talk) 12:41, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

• (Indent reset) Actually, it was called "Hurricane Punch" in the very first Capcom USA movelists, but is listed as "Hadouken" in all movelists now. And generally, it is the most commonly known name to the language audience that is used, or, when that can't be ascertained, the first name used. It's a fact that in both the USA and World versions, the matador character is known as "Vega", so that takes care of the "commonly known" problem. The Japanese Wikipedia would call him "Balrog" (or more accurately バルログ) because, simply, that's what most Japanese speakers would know him as. JuJube (talk) 13:09, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

• • I'm usually about as much of a hardcore purist when it comes to referring to characters by their original name, however this would be an exception. While the character was originally named Balrog, he has been known as Vega in the US for years. Since this Wiki entry is for the US audience, searching for Street Fighter's Vega should point to the matador. As long as the article mentions that his original name was Balrog (which it does), I'm content. A good compromise would be a link at the top of the article pointing to Vega/M. Bison, though I don't think it's all that necessary. Krendall (talk) 20:52, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

• • • Agreed, except this Wikipedia isn't for the US audience as much as for the English-speaking audience, where he's known in more places (universally, in fact) as Vega. JuJube (talk) 22:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

• • • "And secondly, YES, Capcom of Japan IS involved with the name changes, considering it was them that to recode the game for the American/Worldwide markets to integrate the name changes"

- That's strange... that means Capcom of Japan were the ones who translated shoryuken into "sheng long".84.90.24.156 (talk) 19:08, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

• • • • No it doesn't. CoJ made the name changes, but CoA did the translation. JuJube (talk) 21:02, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
• I'm spanish. "De la Vega" and the shorten "Vega" are common surnames. In my classes, of near fourty children, there were always three or four "Vega" and "De la Vega". Apart, "De la Vega" is an surname with spanish roots (Originally, the complete name of a child was "Given Name" de "Father's first surname" y "Mother's first surname". So, altough Vega isn't an spanish name, it is indeed an spanish surname. The character "El Zorro" vas called Alejandro De La Vega, altough he was a mexican he was a descendant of Spanish Nobles. Recently I edited about the fortunate change of names, but it was reverted and I was asked of sources. I can scan many pages of the telephone guide if you want.
  • Nobody is questioning whether or not Vega is a real Spanish name. No need for irrelevant comments. Also, you don't cite a phone book about this sort of info. The Stick Man (talk) 22:25, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
    • Indeed, something does, since the cause of the revert was "Got a source?". The Irony is that not only the Final Boss name was more threatening, but this boss has name which is more Spanish-like. And that "Vega" is a surname.

I meant in this section. Make a new section if you want to discuss this. And since I was the one who reverted that edit, I'll ask again: Got a source? Also, saying that a name is more threatening is an opinion, and Wikipedia is not a place for opinions. The Stick Man (talk) 17:56, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Image Change

Someone move the comic image. Vega is a videogame character and his image should be from one of the games. No need for fan art on this page. Mr.bonus 19:15, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Trivia (removed from the article)

• His Japanese name "Balrog" is meant to be ironic, seeing as the Balrog is a mythical hideous creature, contrary to Vega's immaculate beauty. "Vega" is the name of a star in the Lyra constellation. Vega is also a Spanish word, meaning "small valley"; it's also a common Spanish last name, which helped fit Vega's Spanish ancestry and matador background in the storyline, and an uncommon female first name.
• When Vega performs a custom combo, the shadows that trail him are not masked.
• It is hinted that Vega may engage in hematophagy; he had a strong fascination with his victims' blood whether or not he actually partakes of it.
• Vega appeared as an unplayable boss character in the Capcom/Psikyo shooter Cannon Spike in 2000, as part of an elite group of terrorists in the future. Here he is known as Fallen Balrog (even in the North American release), has two claws, no mask, and a sickly palor, resembling the undead monsters present in that stage of the game.
• In Capcom vs. SNK 2, during Vega's fight intro he will throw a rose to characters he respects (M. Bison) or finds attractive (all the female fighters). He will turn away and shake his head at characters he finds unattractive (Blanka, Yamazaki).
• Vega was given the surname Fabio Lacerda (ファビオ・ラ・セルダ, Fabio ra seruda) in the anime series Street Fighter II V, but it's not officially canonized by Capcom.
• In his original Street Fighter II appearance, the CPU-controlled Vega had a special attack where he could jump onto the cage wall in the background of his stage, climb it for a few seconds, and then leap, dropping down onto the player from the top of the screen. This gave Vega a rather unique advantage as he was the only opponent that could directly interact with the background of his stage. Because he was not a playable character in the original incarnations of Street Fighter II until Champion Edition, this technique could not be replicated by the player unless the battle occurred in his stage. In Street Fighter Alpha 3, when on Vega's stage, Vega has a Super Combo that recreates this ability for a short time (even though the player cannot control him until he leaps off to attack).
• In Street Fighter II: The World Warrior, the flag of Spain is the francoist one, with the black eagle symbol on it. On Champion Edition, appears the constitutional one, with the royal label. On further editions, it appears without any symbol, only the red and yellow flag. --David Pro 22:50, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

• • So, why was the trivia section removed? None of this info is incorrect (though the name inspriation is pure speculation). Krendall (talk) 20:52, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia has a thing against Trivia sections...their best usage is to rework as much info as possible into the bulk of the article to get around any issues.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 00:04, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

True, but the guide that talks against trivia sections also says that they shouldn't just be erased, just try to be implemented into the rest of the article. -Krendall (talk) 15:46, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

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Vega and homosexuality

Due to Vega's appearance and several sources, Vega has to be gay because it was once written hat he has a sexual feeling for Zangief. 83.64.76.55 (talk) 22:29, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

• No he doesn't; actually, he thinks he's ugly (cf. Capcom vs. SNK 2 intro). Vega is not gay, he's a narcissist Japanese stereotype (ie. Benimaru, who you probably think is gay also). JuJube (talk) 04:26, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Unless you know Vega personally, I don't see how you can know he is not gay? likewise, you can't label him gay without clear proof. 79.74.105.111 (talk) 02:18, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

In his SFA3 ending, he states that he admires Cammy because she is 'strong and beautiful'. The only other mediums he seems to have any interest in other characters are the anime film and series where he seems to have a thing for Chun-Li (stalks her in the series, refers to her as a 'cute little bunny' in the film). There doesn't seem to be any indication of being gay anywhere, but he's often represented as being interested in beautiful women. The only thing I recall is Zangief's Super Turbo ending where Gief is posing in front of a mirror with a picture of Vega hanging next to it, and that says more about Gief's sexuality than Vega's. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.188.69 (talk) 19:46, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

• Of course Vega is clearly gay and the storyline by Capcom that he likes Cammy was idiotic. Capcom is twisting the truth and tried to hide Vega's homosexuality within this game, maybe because Capcom knew that many children are playing Street Fighter game and did not wanted the children to follow Vega as an example. I also heard some people said that Vega possibly had sexual intercourse with evil M. Bison but I don't know if this is true. However, from psychological view point, it is not difficult to notice Vega's feminine behaviour and that gays normally act like girls or behave in feminine manner. Regardless to Capcom's twisted storyline, Vega is very feminine and if you analyze or diagnose Vega's behaviour like many psychologists do then you might agree that Vega is indeed gay. He talked like a girl and he cares a lot about his beauty and he also keeps long nails just like girls would do. Why isn't he gay? I think that it is silly for us not to assume or think that Vega is gay, after all he act just like a girl. The proof could be Vega's feminine behaviour or maybe we can assume that Vega is a bisexual which perhaps might make more sense. (REPLIED BY ANONYMOUS USER)

good theroy but, wrong in completely when based on Street Fighter II V--I am an oktau and a baka at times but deny proven facts and you got a fight 18:43, 9 March 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragonmaster88 (talk • contribs)

my goodness your an idiot. first and foremost Zangief is officially canon gay-capcom have said so themselves, so capcom is not homophobic and if they wanted to make vega gay they could have but they havent. The SF ending that is referred to shows Zangielf with VEGA's picture-not the other way round. also-do you know every gay person in the world? every gay person is feminine? and what the hell, if psychologists analysed him? you realise vega IS a fictional character don't you? seriously if your gonna throw out accusations like that you need proof to back it up not just your opinion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.0.6.162 (talk) 23:44, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

• Instead of insulting people like that why not coming up with better arguments? That is all what you got? How am I an idiot since I posted very reasonable statements with facts and not just accusing Vega on purpose? And what is the point to say that this is a fictional character since we already know that we are talking about fictional character from Street Fighter game and its storyline. Tell me where Vega does not look gay then rather than just insulting other people. It is still reasonable that Vega is gay based on his own homosexual behaviour and how he normally act and talk. I don't see why you should disagree with me. It is silly for you not to even realize that and still denying it and believing in Capcom's twisted story that Zangief is actually gay and Vega is not gay. Gay people tend to have feminine-act tendency even if not all of them look feminine in psychological view point. I wasn't really talking about Capcom's storyline but about how this fictional character like Vega act. I know many gay people like Vega and I know how they used to act and think so don't get me wrong. In fact, many gays that I know love this fictional character like Vega because of Vega's gayness and many tried to be like Vega too. Come On! (REPLIED BY ANONYMOUS USER)

Um...yeah he's not confirmed to be gay. If anything you could compare him to Benimaru of KOF. He's a narcissistic pretty-boy type found very commonly in Japanese material. Unless they suddenly come out and state "he's gay", he isn't. Also there's nothing saying Zangief is gay either: that was the result of people reading into something badly.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 17:25, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

• I know that Vega is not officially declared as a gay fighter because Capcom said so and trying to make it become ironic and I did not expect that Capcom was going to do that. However, this is based on my opinion and what many people believe and it is also based on my analysis of Vega's behaviour in psychological view point. Vega's homosexual behaviour could be a "FACT" or a PROOF that could still support my claim that Vega is indeed gay. (REPLIED BY ANONYMOUS USER) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.145.99.54 (talk) 17:32, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Vega's not gay, he's an archetypal narcissistic bishounen (self-centered pretty boy), a common type of villain found in Japanese fiction. He's also a sadistic serial killer. In many of the games he appears in, he flirts with the attractive women before saying things like, "I'd love to see your beautiful crimson blood covering my claw". In the Street Fighter II manga, he fights Chun-Li, taunting her with the fact that he killed her father, then uses his claw to gradually tear apart her clothing to humiliate her. In Street Fighter II: The Animated Movie, he stalks Chun-Li and later attempts to kill her, calling her his "cute little bunny", and saying that one of his hobbies is to "slowly peel the skin off the rabbits [he catches]." In Udon's Street Fighter comics, Vega attempts to rape Ken's wife, Eliza, leaving her hospitalized with serious wounds. In the Street Fighter Alpha series, he's attracted to Cammy. 66.220.139.99 (talk) 18:24, 2 December 2009 (UTC) He is a video game character. Get over it guys also...y u trolling? GET BACK OVER TO /z/! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.11.70.247 (talk) 07:11, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

In Other media

Youtube profile ChubbyboyFilms released a 14 minute fan made you tube film focusing on Vega's origins. Dialogue is in Spanish and Catalan. Here is the link, http: Matador film — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lawrence253 (talk • contribs) 15:08, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

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