Talk:Venous lake

Latest comment: 5 days ago by CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath in topic ICD10 code


How is this asymptomatic?

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This article says:

A venous lake (which are also known as "Phlebectases"[1]) is an asymptomatic, generally solitary, soft, compressible, dark blue to violaceous, 0.2- to 1-cm papule commonly found on sun-exposed surfaces of the vermilion border of the lip, face and ears.

So, it's a purple lump. Visible and feel-able. How can it be called "asymptomatic"?

The symptom article confirms that a departure from normality, noticed by the "patient", is indeed a symptom. I'll remove the word "asymptomatic" from the intro.

I've also removed it from this list: Asymptomatic#List.

Gronky (talk) 22:04, 11 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Etymology?

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The name "Venous lake" is rather unusual for a medical condition. "Lake" here probably does not mean "an enclosed, inland body of water...." Can anyone find out about its origin? --Eliyahu S Talk 21:59, 15 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

ICD10 code

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I don't think D18.0 is the appropriate diagnostic code for this condition. That code is for a haemangioma which is a vascular tumour, whereas this is just a dilation of a vessel.

The description of phlebectasis/phlebectasia can be indexed to I83.9 varicose veins, and dilation of vein takes you to I86.8 varicose veins of other sites, so it would be more appropriate for this to be coded to a varicose vein of lower limb or other site, as applicable. Can we change the code based on this? Tattycakes (talk) 14:15, 23 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Tattycakes: According to the ICD10CM Venous lake falls under the code L98.8 "Other specified disorders of the skin and subcutaneous tissue". Would you be happy with that being added instead? CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 21:40, 23 August 2024 (UTC)Reply