Talk:Verdi Requiem discography

Removal of reference

Someone has removed the reference to this discography. It was to a discography on Amazon. Can we have an explanation. If a discography can't be referenced by a discography what can it be referenced by? This is not a rhetorical question. --Kleinzach 23:10, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

The "discographies" on Amazon are not actual discographies. They are just favourites list compiled by an Amazon customer. I have removed this kind of lists before from discography articles, and met with approval from other editors. So I went ahead and removed this one without discussing it on the talk page. Sorry if I acted inappropriately. --Francesco Malipiero (talk) 23:47, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

According to the Oxford Dictionary of Music (and doubtless many other sources) a discography is "a list of gramophone recordings", so the Amazon clearly qualifies. It may not be a good one, hence you'd be justified in replacing it with someone better. On the other hand simply deleting it is not constructive (and may even lead to the page being deleted). Can you please either get a better reference - or restore it? --Kleinzach 00:00, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

I will restore the reference. I do not have enough time now to replace it with something better. However, a look at Four Last Songs discography (an article I created) and L'Orfeo discography (an article to which I contributed the majority of the references) will give you some idea of what I consider to be proper referencing for discography articles. Best regards. --Francesco Malipiero (talk) 00:08, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Four Last Songs discography and L'Orfeo discography are well referenced. If you can the same for other discographies that will be excellent. Thank you. --Kleinzach 00:19, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

You can well imagine that referencing discography articles in this way is a time consuming business. I once proposed this ideal referencing model following an AfD discussion on the Fidelio discography, and was assured it was unrealistic and unfeasible. An afterthought on the Oxford Dictionary of Music definition: if a discography is a list of gramophone recordings, we are in big trouble indeed, because this definition excludes all recordings on CD, DVD and Blu-Ray Disc. Best regards. --Francesco Malipiero (talk) 00:51, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Leonard Bernstein recording

Given that the date in the first column seems to be the year the recording was made (not the year it was released), how did Leonard Bernstein manage to conduct a recording with the LSO three years after his death ? 84.192.241.15 (talk) 18:24, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I have changed the year of this recording to 1970 (source: Gramophone.net - see ref in article). 84.192.241.15 (talk) 15:29, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Chailly recording does not include the Requiem

I am deleting the 2001 recording conducted by Ricardo Chailly (Decca #467280-2) (see this edit), since it does not include the Messa da Requiem, but instead has the Messa solenne in E flat, among other early sacred works. It's an interesting recording, but it doesn't belong here. See Gramophone (February 2001). --Robert.Allen (talk) 06:13, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Someone may want to add it somewhere else. (I don't have time right now.) --Robert.Allen (talk) 06:21, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

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Removing non-notable recordings

I have just removed a large number of non-notable recordings. I think recordings and performances made in non-notable venues such as private churches and university concert halls, entirely by non-notable musicians (non-notable soloists, non-notable conductors, non-notable orchestras, non-notable choruses) whom no one has ever heard of except the non-notable musicians themselves, and recordings which have only ever been published as vinyl LPs, do not belong in a Wikipedia discography. If I am wrong about this, please correct me. HandsomeMrToad (talk) 08:46, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Verdi: Messa da Requiem - 150th Anniversary Collectors Edition by Deutsche Grammophon and Decca (Release Date: 12/11/2024)

• CD 1-2: Renata Tebaldi, Nell Rankin, Giacinto Prandelli, Nicola Rossi-Lemeni; Coro del Teatro alla Scala di Milano, Vittore Veneziani, Orchestra del Teatro alla Scala di Milano, Victor de Sabata - 1951
• CD 3: Maria Stader, Mariana Radev, Helmut Krebs, Kim Borg; RIAS-Kammerchor, Herbert Froitzheim, Chor Der St. Hedwigs-Kathedrale, Karl Forster, RIAS-Symphonie-Orchester Berlin, Ferenc Fricsay - 1953
• CD 4-5: Gre Brouwenstijn; Maria von llosvay; Petre Munteanu; Oskau Czerwenka; Coro dell'Accademia Nazionale di Santa Cecilia, Bonaventura Somma, Orchestra dell'Accademia Nazionale di Santa Cecilia, Paul van Kempen - 1955
• CD 6-7: Galina Vishnevskaya, Nina Isakova, Vladimir Ivanovsky, Ivan Petrov; Russian State Chorus, Alexandr Sveshnikov, Moscow Philharmonic Orchestra, Igor Markevitch - 1960
• CD 8-9: Leontyne Price, Rosalind Elias, Jussi Björling, Giorgio Tozzi; Singverein Der Gesellschaft Der Musikfreunde, Wiener Philharmoniker, Fritz Reiner - 1960
• CD 10-11: Maria Stader, Oralia Dominguez, Gabor Carelli, Ivan Sardi, Chor der St. Hedwig's-Kathedrale, Radio-Symphonie-Orchester Berlin, Ferenc Fricsay - 1960
• CD 12-13: Maria Stader, Marga Höffgen, Fritz Wunderlich, Gottlob Frick; Südfunk-Chor Stuttgart, Südfunk-Sinfonieorchester Stuttgart, Hans Müller-Kray - 1960
• CD 14-15: Joan Sutherland, Marilyn Horne, Luciano Pavarotti, Martti Talvela; Wiener Staatsopernchor, Wilhelm Pitz, Wiener Philharmoniker, Georg Solti - 1967
• CD 16-17: Mirella Freni, Christa Ludwig, Carlo Cossutta, Nicolai Ghiaurov; Wiener Singverein, Helmut Froschauer, Berliner Philharmoniker, Herbert von Karajan - 1972
• CD 18-19: Heather Harper, Josephine Veasey, Carlo Bini, Hans Sotin; London Philharmonic Choir, John Alldis, Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, Carlos Païta - 1975
• CD 20-21: Katia Ricciarelli, Shirley Verrett, Plácido Domingo, Nicolai Ghiaurov; Coro del Teatro alla Scala di Milano, Romano Gandolfi, Orchestra del Teatro alla Scala di Milano, Claudio Abbado - 1980
• CD 22-23: Anna Tomowa-Sintow, Agnes Baltsa, José Carreras, José van Dam; Konzertvereinigung Wiener Staatsopernchor, Chor der Nationaloper Sofia, Walter Hagen-Groll, Wiener Philharmoniker, Herbert von Karajan - 1984
• CD 24-25: Sharon Sweet, Florence Quivar, Vinson Cole, Simon Estes; Ernst-Senff-Chor, Ernst Senff, Berliner Philharmoniker, Carlo Maria Giulini - 1989
• CD 26-27: Cheryl Studer, Marjana Lipovšek, José Carreras, Ruggero Raimondi; Konzertvereinigung Wiener Staatsopernchor, Norbert Balatsch, Wiener Philharmoniker, Claudio Abbado - 1991
• CD 28: Luba Orgonasova, Anne Sofie von Otter, Luca Canonici, Alastair Miles, The Monteverdi Choir, Orchestre Révolutionnaire et Romantique, John Eliot Gardiner - 1992
• CD 29-30: Renée Fleming, Olga Borodina, Andrea Bocelli, Ildebrando D'Arcangelo; Kirov Chorus, St Petersburg, Andrei Petrenko, Kirov Orchestra, St Petersburg, Valery Gergiev - 2000
• CD 31-32: Anja Harteros, Elina Garanca, Jonas Kaufmann, René Pape; Coro del Teatro alla Scala di Milano, Bruno Casoni, Orchestra del Teatro alla Scala di Milano, Daniel Barenboim - 2012
• CD 33: Maria Agresta, Daniela Barcellona, Piotr Beczala, Ildar Abdrazakov; Coro del Teatro Regio di Torino, Verbier Festival Orchestra, Gianandrea Noseda - 2013

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.77.115.252 (talk) 19:44, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

2011 Grammy Award

Per Grammy Award for Best Classical Album, a 2011 award was given for Verdi: Requiem (performed by the Chicago Symphony Orchestra and Chicago Symphony Chorus) with: Riccardo Muti, conductor; Duain Wolfe, chorus master; Christopher Alder, producer; David Frost, Tom Lazarus & Christopher Willis, engineers/mixers; Silas Brown, mastering engineer. I imagine it should be on this list. I have no idea where to find it, nor who recorded it or owns it.

Allmusic.com lists it as Verdi: Messa da Requiem, 2010. Super Audio Hybrid CD, CSO Resound 9011008. CD, CSO Resound 9011006. Your credits are confirmed in Allmusic.com. Recorded January 15, 2009 - January 17, 2009, Orchestra Hall Symphony Center.

What if Ernest Ansermet recorded Verdi's Requiem on 1965

Giuseppe Verdi: Messa da Requiem per soli, coro e orchestra, in memoria di Manzoni

• Soloists: Régine Crespin, Jane Rhodes, Mario Del Monaco, Silvano Pagliuca
• Chorus: Chorale du Brassus, Chœur du Grand Théâtre de Genève
• Orchestra: L'Orchestre De La Suisse Romande
• Conductor: Ernest Ansermet