Talk:Via Panisperna boys

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Contradiction

• This article: "The group grew under the supervision of Orso Mario Corbino, a physicist, minister, senator and director of the Institute of physics in Via Panisperna, who recognized the qualities of Enrico Fermi, appointed him in 1924 and instituted for him the first Chair of Theoretical Physics in Italy"
• Enrico Fermi article: "Fermi's Ph.D advisor was Luigi Puccianti. In 1924 Fermi spent a semester in Göttingen, and then stayed for a few months in Leiden with Paul Ehrenfest.

From January 1925 to the autumn of 1926 he stayed at the University of Florence. In this period he wrote his work on the Fermi-Dirac statistics When he was only 24 years old, Fermi took a professorship in Rome (the first for atomic physics in Italy, which he won in a competition created by professor Orso Mario Corbino"

1. In what year was Enrico Fermi appointed by Corbino? Was it 1924 as this article specify or was it after the autumn of 1926 as implied from the Enrico Fermi article?
2. How did he got the job? Was it because Corbino recognized his qualities as this article specify or was it a result of a competition as the Enrico Fermi article specify?
3. What was his job title? was it Theoretical Physics as as this article specify or was it Atomic Physics s the Enrico Fermi article specify?

Avihu (talk) 16:50, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I look at the original Italian version of this article and it is quite clear to me that the translator made an error. Fermi got the job at Rome university at the end of 1926. I changed the date accordingly. This answer my 1st question, but I have another:

• Emilio G. Segrè published a book in 1980 called "From X-rays to Quarks" he mentioned the building in Via Panisperna, but does not write about "Via Panisperna boys". Could it be that this name of the group is a new one created as a result of the movie by the same name?

Avihu (talk) 13:30, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Almost a month passed and nobody answered my questions which raise doubts on the accuracy of the article, very strange. Avihu (talk) 16:42, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Five months. Avihu (talk) 16:51, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Four years. Avihu (talk) 17:10, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Hallo, after the motto, better late than never, :-) I can answer your question. No, the denomination is antecedent to the movie. In the seventies, when I attended La Sapienza, this was already a well established name. Alex2006 (talk) 09:20, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, that answer the last question. What about the other questions (about the contradictions between this article and Enrico Fermi article)? Avihu (talk) 22:08, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

I think that you refer to the three questions above. The answers are:

• Decision about Fermi's appointment took place on November 7th, 1926;

• He won a competition, as is custom in Italy. There were three chairs, in Rome, Florence and Milan. Second was Enrico Persico (who went to Florence), third Pontremoli (who went to Milan but perished after a while during the polar expedition of Nobile);

• He was appointed professor of theoretical physics;

All the information above comes from the book of Emilio Segrè "Enrico Fermi, physicist" (p. 45), which is the standard biography of Fermi. Greetings from Rome :-) Alex2006 (talk) 07:05, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Avihu (talk) 12:23, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Ugo Fano

The wiki article on Ugo Fano says that he was also one of the Via Panisperna boys. Should Fano be included and a cross-reference be added? AdderUser (talk) 13:59, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

No, he was not. The Via Panisperna boys are those portrayed in the picture on the article. Fano came from Turin after his Laurea, he worked with Fermi but was not a student or a colleague of him as the others, and he was not part of the group which worked on the neutron experiment. Alex2006 (talk) 15:10, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh. Ugo Fano's entry says, "European years Fano worked with Enrico Fermi in Rome, where he was a senior member of 'Via Panisperna boys'." I am NO AUTHORITY on this (I simply noticed the difference after jumping here from the Fano page link). Can you, Alex2006, make the appropriate comments or corrections to the Fano wiki page? Maybe it should even be stated EXPLICITLY that Fano was not one of the VP boys (and a reference). Thank you. AdderUser (talk) 04:45, 28 May 2012 (UTC)