Talk:Victoria University of Manchester

Charles Barkla

The article says "an early Physics graduate of the University College of the Victoria University" and the linked website says

Educated at Trinity and King's colleges, Cambridge, he joined the faculty of Liverpool University in 1902, moved to the University of London in 1909, and became professor of natural philosophy at the University of Edinburgh in 1913.

What is "the University College of the Victoria University" and has it got anything to do with Manchester? Billlion 23:55, 5 January 2005 (UTC)

"the University College of the Victoria University" was University College Liverpool - one of the three constituent institutions (along with Owens College and Yorkshire College in Leeds) of the federal Victoria University. Charles Barkla attended what was once the Victoria University (in Liverpool), but not the Victoria University of Manchester; the original author has got his Victoria University institutions mixed up; I've removed his entry AnIco 08:44, 13 March 2005 (UTC)

"top" university

from what i can remember - middle in league tables, to me that isn't a top position - considering usually umist got higher. For now until proof can be found i thought it best to speak the truth and remove the sentence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.31.6.115 (talk) 02:07, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

I have readded the sentence, and added a cite for the 'research' claim. I followed the links to the 2001 REA assessments site, and looking at 5* and 5 departmental assessments, only Oxford, Cambridge and UCL had more entries. I didn't find anything on teaching in particular. Generic league tables seem thin on the ground. User:Noisy | Talk 13:01, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

ok sorted with the research - no mention of teaching and since you weren't sure i've removed it (This from 82.31.6.115 (talk · contribs).) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.88.124.188 (talk) 17:50, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Look, 82.31 etc. what's your problem? Manchester was and is top in research as well as teaching. I used to look at the tables as an undergraduate, now that I can judge in more than one ways whether a University is good or not, I do not bother with reading these anymore. But I am sure that most Department, as far as I remember, got 22-24, at least at the Faculty of Arts. But the Faculty of Social Sciences is equally reputed. Medicine? the best after London. Just have a look at these. And how can you remember Manchester being in the middle of the scale? Manchester is among the best in the world, and I have been in a few. What exactly is your problem with Manchester, are you an Oxford graduate, or are you elsewhere? In either case, Manchester can stand comparisons. In this place, you just remove whatever you don't like, great! Panos. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spanakorizo (talk • contribs) 04:18, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

No! I'm from manchester! check the IP address! (This from 82.31.6.115 (talk · contribs).) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.88.155.226 (talk) 20:57, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Achievements?

I believe that the page should have a list of achievements perhaps seperated from the famous alumni.

For example, The early Manchester Computers, mostly the Manchester Baby in my eyes ([1]) were a tremendous achievement yet they don't seem to be recognised except for the small comments next to famous alumni e.g. Tom Kilburn.

I am sure there are many more.

What do you think?

What about all the Nobel Prize winners for example?

What about the world's first steerable radio telescope at Jodrell Bank?

etc etc.

Just an idea - tell me what you think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.12.59.62 (talk) 13:44, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Reorganization as a result of merge debate

As a result of the debate over merging this article with University of Manchester there was a feeling that this article should expand to be the main article on the history of Owens College/Victoria University of Manchester. I have moved the list of famous alumni (which was mainly not alumni !) to People Associated with the University of Manchester, with the intention that this list also be expanded to include Tech/UMIST people. This article now needs expanding to be the main article on the history of the VUM, much as the UMIST article is as already.Billlion 05:48, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Category:University of Manchester Institute of Science and Technology

I have (re-)nominated the Category:University of Manchester Institute of Science and Technology for deletion; please see my reasons, and leave comments, at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 July 6#Category:University of Manchester Institute of Science and Technology. Thanks. Mike Peel 18:24, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

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The case for inclusion in this article is already listed as "its inclusion in the article adds significantly to the article because it is the primary means of identifying the subject of this article."Billlion 10:53, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 02:48, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Only in use in the later years of the university: it was introduced instead of the previous emblem (coat of arms) and derived from the archway built on Oxford Rd by Waterhouse. Many older buildings of the university still have examples of the original coat of arms (notably the Christie Building)--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 22:17, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Period not described accurately

The way the main introduction is composed does not describe the period from 1851 to 1904 accurately (see Charlton, H. B. Portrait of the University, 1951). Owens College could not grant degrees so the students would have had University of London degrees; in 1880 the Victoria University was established and Owens College was the only constituent college until University College Liverpool joined; in 1903 the Liverpool and Leeds colleges became independent universities; Owens College was still a separate institution until 1904 when the college and the Victoria University of Manchester were merged.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 22:05, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

John Edward Taylor Professor of English Literature

A chair at the Victoria University of Manchester was named after John Edward Taylor (probably the John Edward Taylor who owned the Manchester Guardian until his death in 1905). Notable holders of this chair include Sir Frank Kermode (1958-65). Charlton's Portrait of a University (p. 145) mentions a gift of £20,000 from J. E. Taylor "purpose: general purposes (later applied for endowment of a chair of English literature)" (not however marked bequest). H. B. Charlton held this chair but it is not clear whether this was from 1921 when he was appointed as professor or later. The chair has continued to exist and is now held by Gerald Hammond.--Johnsoniensis (talk) 14:30, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

There is information on the history of the Department of English in the university archives; various professors are mentioned without giving the name "John Edward Taylor" (e.g. Frank Kermode (1958-65) and John Jump (1965-76).--Johnsoniensis (talk) 08:53, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

References

error in arms motto

image of the arms motto says "ardus" but should be "arduus" 195.169.52.48 (talk) 08:55, 24 October 2023 (UTC)