Talk:Vidéotron Mobile

Requested move 8 December 2017

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 15:23, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

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Vidéotron Mobile → Videotron Mobile – common English name Mvcg66b3r (talk) 22:33, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 04:36, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Original WP:RM/TR comments:

No, we do not remove diacritics from proper names that are reliably sourced to contain them. No request of this sort should be speedied; they're always controversial.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ<  00:27, 8 December 2017 (UTC) So what about Videotron then? It was just moved as well (requested by the same person). Bradv 00:32, 8 December 2017 (UTC) @Bradv: I have moved that article back to Vidéotron, as you have requested below before I removed it as a completed request. The move I reverted was by Philg88. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 01:41, 8 December 2017 (UTC) Yes, I noticed. Thank you. Bradv 01:42, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

• Oppose. This is a French-Canadian company. It uses an accent in its proper name, which is reflected in reliable sources. Bradv 04:41, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
• Oppose; also, consider merging: This stripping of the diacritics, and posturing that the name is "Videotron" (at this article and at Vidéotron) with "Vidéotron" just being some French variant, is nonsense original "research" – more like anti-diacritics fantasy. Not supported by sources, nor by the company's own materials, including decades of logos.

  Speaking of which: WP does not do logo galleries. We only include an obsolete logo if we have a historical, encyclopedic reason to do so (e.g. because a logo was controversial according to reliable sources). We cannot just include every known logo; this does not pass fair use muster for non-free images. I've removed the pile of old logos from the main Vidéotron article. I also reverted the stripping of the diacritics from the text in that article.

  After this move is done (or during the discussion), we should actually consider merging this unsourced stub into the main article (which does have sources), since it probably serves no purpose being forked off like this.
   — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ<  11:33, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

• Oppose – Keep the company name. — JFG ^talk 10:59, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
• Support per WP:ENGLISH. Me-123567-Me (talk) 20:42, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
• Weak oppose - I'm somewhat torn, because the evidence seems to suggest that more English sources omit the diacritic than use it.[1] That said, though, a minority of sources do include it in news, and there is always the argument that news media routinely omit diacritics across the board. I personally do think we use them too often in Wikipedia, particularly for human names of notable people where the diacritic almost never appears in English sources. This case is borderline though, and I'm happy to stick with the status quo, and the company's own English name.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:13, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

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