Talk:Vienna Cup (association football)
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Teams involved
editDespite the Belfast Telegraph citation, it must be disputed whether or not Celtic, Burnley or Hertha competed for the Vienna Cup. The British clubs appeared to be on a tour of central Europe in Spring 1914, with Berlin, Bratislava, Prague, Vienna and Budapest amongst the cities hosting matches. The majority of these seem to have been exhibition games, whilst others seem to be for one-off, one match trophies. Celtic and Burnley for example played a match in Budapest for a similarly titled Budapest Cup, whilst Glentoran's match with the Austrian Select XI was played for the Vienna Cup.
- WM — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.26.183.142 (talk) 01:09, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Of course Celtic were in it. I'm guessing there is some POV from a jealous Linfield fan in this talk. You've argued against a legit citation without posting any citations of your own to back your claim up — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.32.168.5 (talk) 10:30, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
“Of course Celtic were in it” - based on what? Every citation on the page is a dead link. The 3 British clubs were on tours of Central Europe with some games played for trophies named after the cities the games were in. There was no tournament. http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/1914-05-21%3A+Burnley+FC+1-1+Celtic%2C+Tour+of+Hungary%2C+Austria%2C+Germany+%2F+Budapest+Cup and http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/Budapest+Cup state Celtic and Burnley played for a Budapest Cup on 21st May 1914. Chapter 8 of Sam Robinson’s One Saturday Before The War gives an account of this game too. Page 92 of Roy France’s 2001 book Glentoran: A Complete Record states the Glens played 6 games on a European tour between 21/05/1914 and 01/06/1914 with the Vienna Cup being a one off match against a Vienna Select XI who they beat 5-0 on 30th May. Chapter 12 of the Robinson book verifies this and gives an report of the match.
No such thing like "Vienna Cup" in 1914
editAfter rifling through loads of contemporary Viennese papers, it is my sincere opinion, that there was no such thing like a "Vienna cup" which Glentoran was playing for in Vienna. There were two friendlies against a Vienna select XI, and that was it. The Viennese press spoke of "usual friendlies in town in the summer break. This year we will see Glentoran against ..., Burnley will play", etc. blah, blah, blah. The Viennese are polite, thus visiting teams may have gotten some mementos, and that's about it. "Vienna Cup" is probably a myth created in Belfast. Oalexander (talk) 06:22, 12 May 2024 (UTC)