Talk:Vietnam Veterans Memorial/Archive 1

Archive 1

TouchWall photograph

Jim, I used your wonderful site to find the name this visitor is touching. For obvious reasons, I haven't mentioned what that name is. It was a chance shot. I wanted to capture the spirit of the place, the extraordinary feeling that you are being watched by the shades of those whose names are listed here, and I took a photograph of the geometry of the situation, the young man in the foreground just looking up at the Wall. I thought my hand might have shaken a little and blurred the photograph in the fading January twilight, so I took another, and as I did so he reached up to touch a name. And my heart. Pete 01:19, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Cost vs. donations

Investigative journalist Carlton Sherwood questioned the spending of the donations. He said 2.6 million dollars went to the memorial. That would leave around 5 to 6 million unaccounted for.

Does anyone have details on this? It's important for those trying to establish Sherwood's trustworthiness as a journalist - or trying to discredit him. Uncle Ed 21:58, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Conceptual name

My art professor told us in lecture yesterday that the conceptual name of the Memorial Wall is Split Earth. I've tried researching online, but to no avail. Does anybody else know any information about this?? --Cumbiagermen 23:30, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Most veterans call the Vietnam Veterans Memorial The Wall. I have never heard the phrase Spilt Earth in reference to The Wall. I've been a US National Park Service volunteer at The Wall since 1995. -- Jim from The Virtual Wall

Pictures

None of the pictures of the wall are really all that great for seing what it is. Either they are too close up or from above. Anyone care to add a better one?

71.102.186.234 04:01, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

The main article also should not blithely state that "racism" stemming from prior wars had something to do with the controversary about the design of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. That nonsense about "racism" is merely an opinion which cannot be supported by anything. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.44.153.46 (talk) 14:48, August 20, 2007 (UTC)

revert

an anon (ip address) editor removed two paragraphs from the moving wall section with no discussion and only the automatic comment in the edit summary. I just reverted, as I see no reason to silently anonymously dump content that seems legit. -- Akb4 04:07, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Size of Names

Does anyone know the height of the letters/font of the inscribed names? Tfleming 00:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism

Not to the article, to the memorial itself. Apparently last night the memorial was defaced, potentially permanently. Link here.

I haven't seen a mainstream news source about it yet, so I haven't added anything to the article and in any case it's not my area of expertise. Still, it probably merits a mention. If you have any further information (or especially if you live in the area and can take a free picture), please feel free to edit! Vonspringer 20:50, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Map at top of page

The "IUCN Category V (Protected Landscape/Seascape)" map at the top is unattractive and hardly informative. Wouldn't it be nicer to put the third picture, File:TouchWall.JPG at the top of the page and the "IUCN Category V" template lower, or at the bottom? --Knulclunk (talk) 03:25, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Weasel

I added weasel words until someone fixes it. Seanpnoot (talk) 17:01, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Why would you intentionally add weasel words to an article? I kid, I kid, but could you be more specific? Usually with these kinds of templates, you point out issues with the article in more detail on the talk page. Otherwise people won't know what you're referring to and the template will eventually get removed without any changes made. -- Atama^chat 20:52, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Maya Lins parents?

Are they still alive? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.160.160.220 (talk) 21:14, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Women's Memorial

Where did the names Faith, Hope, and Charity, attributed to the figures in the Vietnam Women's Memorial sculpture come from? Akelsey (talk) 20:21, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

native americans

You have blacks,whites,hispanics depicted,where are the native american indians ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.118.125.98 (talk) 04:42, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Image of the Moving Wall

The image that was put up in the Moving Wall section a few months ago doesn't very well illustrate what the Moving Wall actually is. While I appreciate the fact that the mini-memorial pictured means a great deal to someone, its very personal nature is a bit out of place in this article (although it might warrant inclusion in the The Moving Wall article if it was expanded a bit - perhaps as a demonstration of the sorts of memorials left behind at the mobile monument).
Anyhow, I'm replacing it with one of the two images of the actual Moving Wall itself.
--K10wnsta (talk) 18:06, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Maya Lin's Asian heritage was part of controversy

Added this sentence to the "History" section: Lin's Asian heritage was also a sensitive issue, and she was not even named in the memorial's 1982 dedication ceremony. Also provided an external link to a Seattle Weekly article as a source of this information. Hong Qi Gong 05:45, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

The wall? I cannot believe there was so much controversy over building the wall. The soldiers who lost their lives can only give their names. They gave their lives. And now, their names, are all they had left.

The designer's name is listed under controversies but none is given. Michael A. Goodfellow (talk) 00:40, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

"Controversies" section

This section seems inadequate. The controversy over the original design of the wall was a huge news story at the time, and this article should provide an adequate summary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ishboyfay (talk • contribs) 22:50, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree. This section used to be larger but has been literally white washed. 69.136.104.26 (talk) 17:21, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Is the section about Maya Lin about a controversy? It seems out of place.

Whitewashed racism/sexism as usual

The page about Maya Lin has some interesting facts about how that are conveniently missing from this page. Omgtotallyradical (talk) 17:22, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome to add them, if they're WP:NOTABLE and if you add a footnote to a WP:RS. Reify-tech (talk) 23:19, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

What about Americans KIA/MIA in French Indochina before 1955?

There were more than a few of them. They were both active duty military and civilian (mostly CIA) assisting French-led forces against the Viet Minh. This started as early as 1945 as the Japanese soldiers in Indochina were being rounded up for their return home. As an example, the French had relatively few military aircraft, guns, etc. USAF and CIA pilots regularly flew support missions for the French forces, including during the siege of Dien Bien Phu. A number of these aircraft got shot down and their crews were either killed or captured by the Viet Minh. Why no mention of them? Is it because we were supposedly not militarilily involved at the time? This needs to be put right.

Michou 13 (talk) 14:28, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Michou 13 (talk) 15:05, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

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Family guy episode

Is the small section on the Family Guy episode referencing the memorial necessary to be included in this article? I think it suffices to mention the Family Guy episode in in a sentence under Cultural Representations. It doesn't seem like the episode is significant enough to warrant its own subsection, and in my opinion the amount of detail given to the episode here seems unencyclopedic. 138.88.218.178 (talk) 15:24, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

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Viet Nam "War"

To Whom It May Concern: I am a veteran of the Vietnam Conflict, having served in the Air Force from 1970 - 1974. Please be advised that this was never a declared war, but is categorized as a "conflict". Please correct your pages on the Vietnam Conflict, for the peace of mind of all who served during this troubling times. It will be much appreciated.

P.Meeder, Sgt, USAF 2601:283:4C81:ACB0:21C1:9578:C5C8:8A59 (talk) 20:25, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Added link to this discussion @ Talk:Vietnam War as it may affect that article also. - FlightTime (open channel) 21:23, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

The common historical shorthand name for the conflict is Vietnam War (regardless of its status as a declared war). I don't see that changing any time soon. Intothatdarkness 01:26, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Family Guy episode mention

@Rockygunn1233: Please discuss here instead of repeatedly reverting the section in question. GLORIOUSEXISTENCE (talk) 01:56, 14 August 2023 (UTC)