Talk:Virginia State Route 7

Latest comment: 11 years ago by RossPatterson in topic http://www.vahighways.com/route-log/va007.htm

Municipality?

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In the "Municipality" column of the interchange table, many of the localities listed are not municipalities, but unincorporated areas. Should the column be called something else, like "Locality"? 38.100.35.16 (talk) 20:38, 15 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

They're all well-defined "places", but that doesn't seem to mesh with "County". Tedickey (talk) 21:02, 15 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
Of course a county is a PLACE, and why would anyone argue with this fact?
A list of places: state, province, county, city, town, village, hamlet, country, island, continent, planet, moon, asteroid.98.67.165.47 (talk) 20:44, 21 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

The order of writing things down

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For thousands of years, routes and especially land routes & roads have been described in east-to-west and north-to-south order, so why change now? The logical place to begin this article is in Alexandria, Va., and its logical ending is in Winchester, Va.

To describe the land or sea route connecting the orginal 13 states, it goes New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia. (Perhaps Massachusetts should have been first, since Maine used to be part of Massachusetts.) All of the above mentioned states are on the route of I - 95, and that is the way that it should be described (from north to south), with the addition of Florida.

To describe an old air route from France to the United States, it would go Paris, Ireland, Iceland, Greenland, Newfoundland, Nova Scotia, Boston, New York City -- from east to west. An old air route from the U.S. to the Philippines went by seaplane (the Pan American Clippers) from Oakland, Calif., to Honolulu, Midway Atoll, Wake Island, Guam, and Manila in that order. 98.67.165.47 (talk) 20:44, 21 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

That might be, but the standard for milepost order in the US is south-to-north and west-to-east, and we follow that order as a matter of course. Imzadi 1979  22:05, 21 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

http://www.vahighways.com/route-log/va007.htm

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Looking at the given site, I don't see the "cut/paste" - checking for phrases from this page, I've found none that match. Some specifics would be useful, since "cut/paste" is a statement that there is literal copying. TEDickey (talk) 19:36, 2 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

The entire first paragraph of the History section is a match.
Original source:

Creation: Appeared in July 1933 as a renumbering of:

VA 54 from Alexandria to Berryville

VA 826 in Berryville

VA 37 from Berryville to Winchester

VA 822 from Winchester to the West Virginia line above Cross Junction. This is the 2nd VA 7.

Wikipedia article:

Creation: Appeared in July 1933 as a renumbering of: VA 54 from Alexandria to Berryville VA 826 in Berryville VA 37 from Berryville to Winchester VA 822 from Winchester to the West Virginia line above Cross Junction. This is the 2nd VA 7.

The only difference is that when it appears in our article, the MediaWiki software strips out the line breaks. The remainder of the history section is the same.
Also note that on the rest of the article, we've used the "SR" abbreviation for "State Route", but the original text uses the roadgeek convention of the state's postal code instead of "SR". This convention is common in roadgeek circles because "SR" could be "State Route", as in Virginia and several other states, or "State Road" as in Florida or Indiana. The convention is also used to distinguish which "SR 7" is meant, and it is applied to other states which name their roadways "State Highway", "State Trunk Highway" or "Trunk Highway" for consistency. Imzadi 1979  19:56, 2 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
I "see" (the usual copyright-violations I've seen have left the content unblanked) TEDickey (talk) 20:04, 2 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, the entire History section was added by User:68.57.112.113 on July 1, 2013. It is indeed a copy-and-paste of http://www.vahighways.com/route-log/va007.htm, right down to the line breaks and a couple of weird wiki-formatting effects. All the text is present in the October 5, 2012 copy of the page on archive.org, so it's clearly a copyright violation. The whole section should be deleted. RossPatterson (talk) 21:23, 2 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

Problem solved. User:Wizardman just removed it the copyrighted material and deleted the revisions that contained it. RossPatterson (talk) 11:20, 19 October 2013 (UTC)Reply