Talk:Visa requirements for Iranian citizens/archive 1

I'm not sure what problem you have with the edits?

They reflect current Timatic info for KLM, else sources are provided for very recent changes.

Azerbaijan - I've given 2 sources for this, it changed to visa on arrival in August 2016. Iraq - It's been visa on arrival for 15 days at 2 key airports for a long time now. Belarus - Read the KLM info, it's visa on arrival at Minsk with health insurance to be paid. Vietnam - It's stated for a long time now, visa on arrival for 30 days at Phu Quoc. Colombia - evisa, the site provided, very clear from the KLM info. Moldova - Same as above, just check the KLM info, site is given.

The rest of the edits were just extra info on certain countries where a visa for the EU/US etc can allow a visa free period or visa on arrival, as with some Latin or E.Euro nations. I got it from the KLM links, it's only to help people.

So what do you disagree with exactly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.0.25.190 (talk) 15:49, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

I've accepted the points made on Moldova, Vietnam and Iraq so I've left them as they were before. Belarus, Colombia and Azerbaijan needed editing. KLM state visa-on-arrival for Belarus (at Minsk) and an eVisa for Colombia. I've provided 3 sources inc. the official Azerbaijan gov site, to show 15 days visa-on-arrival in Azerbaijan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.0.25.190 (talk) 17:47, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

The problem is that you are presenting the rules that are applicable only for a small region in some country as rules for an entire country. So for example visa on arrival that exists in Kurdistan exists only in Kurdistan and yet you change the visa rules for entire Iraq as visa on arrival which is simply not true. In Vietnam visa is not required in Phu Quoc. And that's it. One tiny resort island. Yet you change the entire country of Vietnam to be shown as having the rules that exist only in this small island. That's deeply misleading. Please check the size and location of Phú Quốc and then come back again to tell us if you still insist that we should say that the entire Vietnam should be listed as per rules that are valid at Phu Quoc only And then of course the entire list of countries that do not actually provide visa on arrival routinely such as Belarus but require the visa to be approved in advance or documentation including a certified invitation letter to be submitted well in advance. This is visa pick up at the airport, not visa on arrival as in other countries where the only requirement is to pay a fee. In general many of your edits are not wrong but belong to the notes column.--Twofortnights (talk) 10:24, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Ok that's fair, I understand. But that leaves Azerbaijan, which is Visa on Arrival for 15 days since August 2016. Babakesma also left this edit alone. I provided 3 sources for this including the official Azerbaijan gov website. (Before Aug 2016 it was only for a region).

I will edit Azerbaijan and provide 3 sources again. Please don't undo it unless you check them out first and find a reason to undo it.

I'll also add key notes for certain countries, based on the info for KLM linked to every country. Please don't undo this unless you check them out and actually disagree.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:4709:FD00:C92:5F33:FA07:F993 (talk) 15:17, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Syria - How do you know the IATA/KLM didn't update Syria for over 3 years? How do you know the Syrian government didn't update IATA/airlines/others in over 3 years? The 2014 article doesn't state *all* visitors, has no date for the law coming into force, doesn't quote any official, is 'reported'. There are lots of articles on the net like this for any country, only a % of them turn out to be accurate in the end.

Belarus - Why has this been reverted back to Visa Required multiple times? The IATA/KLM info states Visa on arrival at Minsk, with health insurance paid on arrival. There's no stated regional restriction, nor requirement for special permission/letter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.0.25.190 (talk) 18:34, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

I know because I created the visa policy of Syria article in 2013 and have been following the IATA page ever since.

As for Belarus it's not a straightforward routine visa on arrival. Documents need to be sent will in advance of travel meaning this is a visa pick up.--Twofortnights (talk) 20:03, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Fair enough, and thanks for the Belarus link in your last undo/edit, you're correct. You may want to update the map to show Azerbaijan (and Georgia, Armenia etc if you haven't yet). Not sure what you can put for Syria, up to you.