Talk:Vision for Space Exploration

Latest comment: 7 months ago by Sdsds in topic Conflating VSE with ESAS

The Actual Document

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I have provided a link to the original PDF document from NASA. From this document, I am unable to distill the motivation for decommissioning the space station. --Scasey1960 (talk) 15:52, 5 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

Previous discussion without headers

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We should go out and explore space. . .

. . .but the VSE is beginning to look like nothing more than political grandstanding.

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Vision_For_Space_Exploration_Facing_Critical_Juncture.html

I do not know where to ask this, but what is the origin of the VSE? Whose idea was it? Was it originally written by Griffin? Zubrin? Someone else? I am not suggesting that person be criticized, only that the full progression be explained. This was a huge change in direction. We should know how we started on this course, and it seems unlikely that President Bush developed it personally.

One of the most serious problems with the VSE and its implementation under the Bush Administration was the lack of open discussion of the goals and strategies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danwoodard (talkcontribs) 19:58, 20 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

Cancelled Programs

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It might be informative to have a listing of the programs that were cancelled or delayed due to the VSE, for example PARCS. 00:29, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Note on the Criticism Section

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I'm removing Buzz Aldrin's name from those responsible for the cited abstract "Sustainable Space Exploration and Space Development - A Unified Strategic Vision". While his work was used as a reference, the only authors listed as responsible for it are Feng Hsu, Ph.D. and Ken Cox, Ph.D.

However, I'll incorporate Aldrin's criticism of NASA's vision into a statement of its own, referencing the actual article he wrote.
--K10wnsta (talk) 21:33, 14 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

One key point missing from the the section was the 'political engineering' a major unwritten VSE requirement to keeping the Shuttle Workforce employed, this was successful in AL, MS & TX by not in FL. This requirement restricted the mission and system planning yielding the SLS Rocket. There are competing mission architectures that have a better chance of success using commercial launch services such as Space-X. If the SLS funding was direct to designing a Lunar/Mars landing system, NASA may have been able to plan for a Moon/Mars mission. dond (talk) 19:53, 13 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

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The far side of the Moon may not be permanently free of the "noise" of Earth. As we continue to place satellites in progressively higher orbit around the Earth, they will eventually cast their signals across even the far side of the Moon.

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Changed from whole article needs update to specific sections need expansion (October 2021)

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Hello, I have updated the lead section very slightly to reflect changes in space policy under different presidents until 2021. I removed the "needs update" tag on the whole article. I added new tags in the sections "Mars vision" and "Interplanetary human transport" because those sections have no article text, only images. Thanks. Jturner20 (talk) 16:53, 14 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Conflating VSE with ESAS

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The current version of the article mistakenly conflates the VSE with Exploration Systems Architecture Study. The article would serve readers better if it incorporated text like that at Exploration Systems Architecture Study#Scope. (— 𝐬𝐝𝐒𝐝𝐬 — - talk) 01:28, 31 March 2024 (UTC)Reply