Talk:Visionary fiction

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I made some edits.

I'm not picking on the VFA. I'm a strong advocate of Visionary Fiction. Unfortunately, this article lacks strong credibility beginning with the literary definition of "visionary" (no offense Dr. Bennett). The website from which that definition is taken is unclear as to which reference the definition is derived from. The genre of Visionary Fiction is indeed developing a substantial following. I, myself, was introduced to the term in 2008 via a vision of my own. I had no idea at that point that others were having the same vision. At that time, Michael Gurian was the only person online supporting the Visionary genre.

Although I agree that personal conscious evolution is the core theme of the Visionary genre, I have some issues with the way the Visionary Fiction is being represented as a genre. First and foremost, I strongly agree with the current grouping of Visionary and Metaphysical. Metaphysical Philosophy as philosophy (not to be misconstrued as mysticism) should indeed stand alone with Visionary Literature, yet apart from Philosophical Fiction in the way that Visionary Literature by nature must be character driven. In my opinion, the main philosophical components of good Visionary Fiction are subjectivism, and ontology.

Secondly, outside of Carl Jung's mention is this article, no attempts have been made to discover sources that support elements of the visionary device in historic classical literature, encyclopedias, dictionaries, or philosophy. This article needs more references to lauded writers like Blake, Kafka, and Thomas Aquinas. I understand that the excitement over Visionary Fiction resides in its "newness." But a strong effort must be made to show that the elements of Visionary Fiction have been with us all along, and that Visionary Fiction is deserving of a genre all its own.

Lastly, Visionary Fiction must break from dogma. This includes religion (though not theological wisdom) and especially the kookiness of the New Age Movement. Visionary Fiction should represent a new and imaginative foray into Metaphysics in the philosophical sense (and it's rightly categorized as such) if it's to be taken seriously; and it should (if I had it my way) focus solely on western traditions due to its metaphysical roots in Western Philosophy.

I'm not great at conclusions. So that's it.

You're all wonderful people and I respect what you're doing. I hope we meet soon.

Soulgazer (talk) 23:56, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

@Soulgazer: Thanks for the edits! Grognard Extraordinaire Chess (talk) Ping when replying 00:27, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

@Chess: Thanks to you for noticing! I hope I can continue to make valuable contribtutions. Soulgazer (talk) 00:42, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

@Soulgazer: Please do! Grognard Extraordinaire Chess (talk) Ping when replying 01:35, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

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