Talk:Vitas
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Vocal Range
editI know this can't be listed because it's personal research, but I think it could be an interesting discussion. I'm pretty bad at classifying singers, but I'm pretty sure he's a tenor? His range, from what I've heard and attempted to measure, is C2 (in "Goodbye" - it's probably not really that low, though) up to Eb6 (in "Dedication").
Also, this article mentions his soprano voice. I'm pretty sure his high notes are in falsetto (just listen to Onepa #1 Asian version and compare it to the European voice. It's the exact same, but you can clearly hear that one sounds like the 'uglyness' was just edited out of the flasetto), correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're using your falsetto, wouldn't you be a countertenor or falsettist? 69.160.116.44 07:07, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
The really croaky low note in Good-Bye? I'm pretty sure it's in the 1st octave, and I believe it is his lowest note (although it is vocal fry). He has also hit D2 in full voice in a live TV performance of Poplar (original version). He has some pretty low notes at the start of Wax Figures too, but they're somewhat whispery and it's very difficult to pitch a whisper accurately. That lovely clean E♭6 in Dedication is nice and easy to identify. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 20:36, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
You can't call someone a falsetto, someone can be "singing falsetto" but it would be a soprano voice.
Vitas' range is clearly above tenor, so countertenor/male alto is a better term to use. I would not say "soprano voice" is wrong, but it's quite easy to cause confusion.
Vitas' range is very rare for a male but also very real. His high voice range can be classified as countertenor or a male sopranist. Both are accurate discriptions of his amazing talent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TXRanger (talk • contribs) 23:21, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
I believe he is a natural tenor, and since he also sings in the soprano range he is a countertenor; the latter term is perhaps more often used of him because it describes a rarer voice classification. Perhaps a new term should be invented for him, since he often uses tenor and countertenor ranges in the same song with (arguably) equal proficiency. He also sometimes uses a baritone range. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 07:18, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Could this be used as citation? http://themoscownews.com/arts/20130528/191554481/Dolphin-voice-prince-Vitas-facing-criminal-probe.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faolind (talk • contribs) 17:49, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
- I don't think Anna Arutunyan of The Moscow News qualifies as a reliable source for Vitas' vocal range. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 05:09, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
I find appalling that the article itself doesn't mention his vocal range. This is what he is known for. Calling him a soprano seems bizarre, since he also sings in a tenor range. I would say he is a falsettist. I see no reason why one would not trust a Muscovite columnist about his range. It's not like this is a political propaganda thing that would be likely distorted. He's a Russian singer, so Russians would be most likely to know his range. Russians are very serious about music. This a bit like a sports statistic. In any case, I can't access the link to the Moscow publication from my computer. I found one Youtube video that claims he can sing to E7, but it could be that that person is confused about what E7 actually is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skysong263 (talk • contribs) 19:34, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
Wording
edit"In March 2003 he also gave 264 solo concerts including in Russia, Australia, USA..." Should this be reworded? It kind of seems that it's saying he did 264 concerts in the month of March. That would be almost 9 shows a night. 69.160.116.44 07:07, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
I came across exactly the same wording on another web page. I don't think any of it was originally written in English, and the translation left a lot to be desired. I'm not sure exactly what was meant either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Contains Mild Peril (talk • contribs) 08:13, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
I think it meant as of March 2003. But I agree, it was not originally in English, so not sure exactly. But that makes more sense. Vitasfan (talk) 04:27, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Whistle register
editFalsetto is NOT the same as HEAD VOICE. Head voice is not whistle register either. It's a different register, and engages different muscles. The progression is chest, mix, head, and whistle. If falsetto and head voice were synonymous, Wikipedia would not have two different articles. Vitas rarely used falsetto. Falsetto is scratchy and very limited, when HEAD VOICE is crystal clear and has a MUCH fuller range. There is a BIG difference between falsetto and head voice, and someone should cite the difference. With the range he has, singing with only falsetto would be impossible. He simply has full control of his head voice, and can freely transition from chest voice to head voice (via mix voice). Woodwindwaker (talk) 21:24, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
Vitas used to be listed in the "Whistle register singers" category but was removed.
Would this be proof that he can sing that high (C# above soprano C): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xlEZ1udpT0&search=vitas
Or is that not high enough to count as "Whistle register"?
- That note is not in the whistle register, as far as I can tell. Highconclave 03:37, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
@Highconclave: The highest notes they both hit in that song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xlEZ1udpT0&search=vitas) are A5's, that's the A above tenor C (tenor C is C5), or A below soprano C (soprano C is C6). He could still do it in his head voice, I don't think he does it in his whistle register, that's usually (READ: USUALLY, not always) used above soprano C for females (so probably lower for males). And really his range is really not that unique. Ian Gillan from Deep Purple hits the exact same note (A5) in Child in Time. Miljenko Matijevic from SteelHeart also in 'She's Gone'. 13:57 - Manolito Mystiq - April 29th 2007
In that video he is up to a C#6 and someone above said in one of his songs he reaches an Eb6. That's still a semi-tone away from the bottom of the whistle register range; according to the article, the bottom of the range is an E6. Also, even if he did sing an E6 I'd think he'd have to sing more than a couple whistle register notes for him to be a fully-fledged whistle register singer, no? 02:16, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Is this the Eb6? http://youtube.com/watch?v=8T-GGr1NtXc (circa 2:49)?
That link's not working now, but if it's the highest note he sings in Dedication (Посвящение) then yes, that's E♭6. Some male singers may use whistle register to reach this note, but in his case I think it's just a surprisingly high falsetto.
To illustrate the difference, here's an amateur cover version in which the singer apparently does use whistle register to hit the highest notes in Dedication (C#6-Eb6 in the Vitas version, not sure what the notes are in the cover since much of it is off tune but it still demonstrates the point) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoFlqKg98cI
Vitas briefly hits E6 in his coda to Ave Maria (Smile! album version), but it's still not whistle register in my opinion. As far as I'm aware Eb6 is still his highest sustained note. He is rumoured to have a whistle register which can reach B7(!) but I haven't heard any evidence of this. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 15:36, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
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No, it's not true that all falsettists have scratchy falsetto voices. There are plenty of popular singers with beautiful falsettos, Josh Groban, for instance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skysong263 (talk • contribs) 19:44, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
Vitas
editHi! I am wondering why does it say in the beginning of the article about Vitas that he is an Ukrainian-born and then that he is a porno star. He is definitly not a porno star and he is born in Latvia. If this is an error why it has not been corrected because i think it should. The readors who does not who Vitas is may think he is really a porno star because the article says so. (preceding comment unsigned)
- Someone was probably playing a sick joke. It is too bad people use Wiki to play with. They are supposed to be a factual encyclopedia. But in reality, we cannot believe what we read when people persist to play games or write undocumented "facts". Vitasfan (talk) 15:21, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- I know the original comment above is old, but in case similar issues arise in future: the tag at the top of the current version of the article states, "Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, especially if potentially libelous or harmful." If any editor should come across such additions in future, you don't need to ask about it here - please just click the "edit" tab and remove any vandalism and/or other clearly inappropriate material. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 16:34, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
Controversy
editIn the controversy section, it states: "Ironically, Vitas starred in a murder mystery television series, where he played a pop singer with an unusually high voice." Seeing as how Vitas is a singer with an unusually high voice, I don't see how that's either controversial or Ironic. Was there some controversy or irony associated with his appearance that is not described? I think this line should be removed, especially if there is no citation for the appearance, and definitely if there is no citation for the irony or controversy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.27.160.124 (talk) 23:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
I have moved the information about his acting career to the lead section but I believe I have now discovered the reason for its previous inclusion in this section: it seems there is indeed a link to the controversy described and an irony. I found the TV programme on YouTube with a description in Romanian. I don't speak Romanian but I put it through Google Translate and while I did not completely understand the computer's translation I think I got the gist of it. As far as I understand it, I think the plot involves a singer who loses his (very high-pitched) voice, and subsequently meets a 40-year-old woman with a singing voice similar to his, so the two conspire for him to resume his career using her voice. It is then, somewhat ironic that while denying accusations of lip-synching to recordings which are not his true voice, he apparently plays a TV character who does so, thus perhaps lending credibility to the idea that such a deception could work. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 09:32, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
"Although some accuse Vitas of being a castrato, this vocal range is easily within reach of the classically-trained countertenor or male sopranist." What exactly is "this" vocal range being discussed here? Does this refer to Vitas' range or a typical castrato's or both? If we're talking about Vitas' range I'm not sure it's accurate to say it's "easily" within reach of the classically-trained countertenor or male sopranist. Only a minority of countertenors sing in soprano range anyway, and Vitas' range extends a little higher than the classically-defined soprano range of C4-C6: he reaches E♭6 in Dedication. Do we know if he's even had any substantial classical training? Would the sentence I quoted above perhaps be better without the word "easily"?Contains Mild Peril (talk) 08:45, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Some of this type of controversy surrounds Michael Jackson as well. It would be really helpful if someone were to write an article that would describe: what is considered normal for a male? How do you tell the difference between "head tones" and "falsetto"? Are there really any documented castrati around these days for comparison, e.g. Kim Petras? I got the Alessandro Moreschi CD, but it's such lousy sound quality and such a strange singing style that it's hard to form opinions about what castrati actually sounded like. I would say Vitas's really, really high notes sound like falsetto to me, but that does not make them any less remarkable as very few people can do that -- and it's certainly not classical training that results in that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skysong263 (talk • contribs) 21:18, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
Conflicting birth dates
editSo uh, is he born in 81 or 79? cos the article mentions both —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 220.244.206.232 (talk) 11:03, 12 April 2007 (UTC).
1979, but someone insists on changing it to the wrong date despite that everyone who has followed him for years saw his passport published in the newspaper with the birth date of 1979. Apparently they cannot differentiate between PR and fact and don't care, as some of us do, to keep Wiki factual. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vitasfan (talk • contribs) 01:38, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
If whoever keeps putting wrong info on this page would pay attention to his official site at www.vitas.com.ru, they would see they have a birthday page up for him and list his age as 32....means he was born in 1979.67.249.183.7 (talk) 04:45, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
There was a recent interview posted on his official site vitas.com.ru and it said he was born in 1981. I trust his site, so 1981 it is. (Russianproducer67) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.200.122.36 (talk) 17:48, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
And I think Vitas knows when he was born and he says 1979.
Birth Date and Place
editVitas was born February 19th 1979 in Odessa (now Ukraine). His passport personal data page was published in one of Moscow newspapers in 2004. Vitas' official biography was created by his prodcucer S.Pudovkin. --IrisYeats 23:23, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
And now the article mentions '81 and '85. The confusion never stops. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.86.154.200 (talk) 10:27, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
- Aaargh! I've tried, so help me I really have tried to find out his correct birthdate but it's doing my head in!
- The good news is that every source I've found which mentions it agrees he was born on 19th February: the date discrepancies concern only the year. I am astonished that numerous sources including Vitas' own official website tell us that he set a record as the youngest artist to perform a solo concert at the State Kremlin Palace, yet I have thus far failed to find any which explicitly state what age he was at the time!
- I have discovered one website which claims he was born in 1980, and another in which the conflicting dates of 1979 and 1981 occur not only on the same webpage (linked to from Vitas articles on Wikipedia) but in the same photo caption! They are taking the smegging piss!
- I have not yet found any external source claiming he was born in 1985 (as mentioned above), but I sincerely hope that one is incorrect: that would mean that he would have been only 15 years old when he appeared nude in the Opera #2 video.
- On the upside, my last vestiges of sanity have been preserved by the hilarity of Google Tranlate, which provides such gems as:
Now Vitas very izmenilsya.S one side is correct, the old image of all of its new long nadoel.A same deprived "gills", enigma, increased the number of hair ... "and moved it into the category of" such a lot "...
In December 2002, Vitas took part in the shooting of multi-series on the book of Mrs. Dontsova "bastard beloved" in the role of the artist who came from the province and blew up a unique voice and his songs pop Olympus.
He worked in the theater and the plastic voice parody, where he found a Sergei Nikolaevich Pudovkin - his current producer.
Thousands of viewers and listeners, usmlyshav extraordinary voice of Vitas, broke his head, he does it so sings?
- Yes. Enlightening. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 05:25, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
OK, I've found a website with a 2005 interview (in Russian, naturally) in which Vitas himself stated that he was 24. Despite the fact that the webpage also appears to give his birth date as 1980, I think an apparent transcript of Vitas' own confirmation of his age may be the closest thing we have to a reliable source. I also found another article which said his 28th birthday was this year. I'll add these as references. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 03:45, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
1979 it is. The above post about a newspaper printing Vitas' passport details is true (and I'm told he looked young and cute and had long hair in his passport photo) but unfortunately nobody seems to have a copy of the newspaper article or even the exact date and name of the publication. I'll add another citation for '79, and if anyone raises the question again I might start turning green and bursting out of my clothes or something... Contains Mild Peril (talk) 21:25, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
Erasing my own comments. They are correct, but I withdraw my offer to show the article. This debate should be settled by the information at his official site. If not, then I give up. Vitasfan (talk) 04:50, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
There was a recent interview posted on his official site vitas.com.ru and it said he was born in 1981. I trust his site, so 1981 it is. (Russianproducer67) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.200.162.51 (talk) 23:22, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
In the interview Vitas gave on television in January this year, he said his mother died in 2001 and he was 20 years old. Now do the math. 1981 it is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.132.153.173 (talk) 14:44, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
No...Vitas did not say it. The interviewer did, and he did not correct him. You believe everything you see and hear in the media? I think Vitas knows how old he is. Look at the date on his personal Facebook page, and stop arguing this! http://www.facebook.com/vladasovic — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vitasfan (talk • contribs) 17:12, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
It is public record. The year is 1979.[1] http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=25ksynb&s=6 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.120.140.113 (talk) 16:57, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
References
Interwiki
editThe Russian Interwiki is a disamb.--Tresckow (talk) 16:28, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Cyrillic transliteration does not belong in trivia
edit"Vitas is sometimes known as Bumac which is how his name in Russian cursive appears when compared to letters in the Roman alphabet, or ВИТАС in Russian print when compared the same way. "
What does that even mean? He's not just sometimes known as Bumac is he? He IS Bumac in Cyrillic, or Vitas in the Roman alphabet. The pronunciation is nigh-on identical. Should all Wikipedia articles about something Russia now feature a "hey-look-at-their-crrraaazzzy-alphabet!" bit in a trivia section? Or am I missing something? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.118.64.39 (talk) 02:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
You're right, it make no sense to include that in the Trivia section, although it should have a place in the article since he's often named on YouTube as Vitas Bumac as though Bumac were his surname, which could cause confusion. I'll move it. If I can find another part of the article where the rest of the "trivia" information naturally fits I might even remove the trivia section altogether, since such sections seem to be discouraged nowadays and in this article it doesn't actually contain a great deal of information. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 10:53, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
I don't think this has any place in this article. It is just silly. I took out part of it, but left the part about it looking like Bumac for the education of those who keep calling him Vitas Bumac. But I think it adds to the confusion to say he is sometimes called that just because some people err. And actually it said because of his fame on the internet he is sometimes called that. What? Vitasfan (talk) 05:04, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
(moving IP editor's comment to above section where it was probably intended to go - Contains Mild Peril (talk) 02:30, 30 March 2011 (UTC))
Mama album
editI note that a recent edit has rightly clarified that not all the songs on this album were written by Vitas himself. The article now states "Another album "Mama" included only the new songs composed by Vitas among other songwriters." Is this now accurate? Were all of the songs featured on this album new? Starry River (by Aleksandra Pakhmutova and Nikolai Dobronravov) has a somewhat retro sound which prompted me to wonder if this might be a cover of an oldie, though of course it's entirely possible it was newly written in that style. I was surprised to learn that Dedication was not composed by Vitas. Composer A. Bogoslovskaya apparently does not have a Wikipedia article. Does anyone here know anything about the composer or background of this piece? Was it written for Vitas, or perhaps originally composed as an instrumental? I can't imagine that it could have been composed as a vocal song without a specific singer in mind: hardly anyone would be able to sing it. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 01:34, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Tour: "Sleepless Night" or "Sleepless Nights"?
editJust wondering which translation is more correct. We currently have "Sleepless Nights" in the article whereas Vitas' own website gives the English title as "Sleepless Night". Google Translate (often an amusing source of gibberish) translates the Russian БЕССОННАЯ НОЧЬ as Restless night. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 03:00, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm told the correct translation is Sleepless Night, which is also the translation given on Vitas' own website, so I've changed it. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 15:14, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Spelling
editI know that Romanisation of Russian names can result in more than one spelling which may be considered correct, but can we have some consistency here? Vitas' surname is given as both Grachyov and Grachov, and his producer's name Poudovkin and Pudovkin. I think we should stick with the same spellings throughout the article.Contains Mild Peril (talk) 22:38, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Sales figures
editI previously included in the article a claim from Vitas' official website that his CD sales total over 100 million. However, I have not found this figure used anywhere else: all other sites I've found citing sales figures say 10 million. The 10 000 000 figure also appears to be several years old: I have found no further recent relevant data. I have therefore removed the mention of the highly questionable career sales figure from the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Contains Mild Peril (talk • contribs) 18:39, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Opera #2/ Opera No 2: iTunes smegged up.
editEither English title is acceptable. The main point is Opera #2 is the song which was released as a single in early 2001, accompanied by the video (Dec 2000) in which Vitas has gills, plays the accordion naked and breaks glass with his voice. This single became a huge hit, winning the Russian prize for best-selling single in 3 consecutive years (as mentioned in the article). I am aware that iTunes has erroneously listed this song as Opera No 1, which I think may be the source The Man in Question used for the edits which he no doubt had good reason to believe to be corrections. However, iTunes got it wrong. I have this song on Vitas' Philosophy of Miracle album (which also includes Opera #1), Myth of the Shaking Soul Voice DVD and Audio Visual Connect CD + DVD boxed set, and I've also seen many live performances of it on YouTube and Vitas' own website. It is definitely Opera #2. In fact, the type of scarf he wears in the video is now known as an "Opera #2 scarf" (some of these were given away as competition prizes) and if Vitas puts on that scarf at a concert it elicits a huge cheer because it announces the song he's about to sing. I will now revert the relevant edits and add references which I hope will minimise further confusion. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 11:01, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Vitas' or Vitas's?
editAny opinions on which possessive form is preferred? The article has both, but I think we should use the same form throughout. Wikipedia's article on the apostrophe says either is acceptable in such cases, and usage should depend on intended pronunciation. Personally, I prefer Vitas' but I'm fine with either so long as it's consistent. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 04:47, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Light of a New Day: single, album, EP or what?
editThis CD has been recently moved from the Albums discography section to Singles. It is a single track which is almost 40 minutes long, so it's questionable whether it belongs in either of those categories, though Vitas' official website describes it as an album. If we change the "Singles" heading to "Singles/ EPs", I suppose that would cover it? Contains Mild Peril (talk) 02:59, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Health
editIn some videos on YouTube he looks hairless and emaciated. Are there health issues? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skysong263 (talk • contribs) 21:10, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
- No, this was during the early days when he entered the entertainment business he was almost bald. His mother passed away and he got skinnier and lost more hair (as apparent in the 2002 Kremlin Concert) but it grew back later that year. He's changed a bit in the past few years, as he got a bit chubby by 2007 but he's now slightly skinnier. No need for this to be added to the article. Frankyboy5 (talk) 23:54, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- Oh! I would not say he has ever been "chubby". His weight has fluctuated, but not chubby! I saw him during the "chubby" period. He was very slender! Remember the camera adds weight too. Vitasfan (talk) 15:13, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Wild shrieking? Seriously?
editAround the introduction there's a part that says: "His eclectic pop music is often difficult to categorise, incorporating elements of techno, dance, classical, jazz, folk music, and wild shrieking." Wild shrieking? Seriously? Plus the two sources cited do not even mention the type of music he sings, let alone that it's widely accepted that his style includes "wild shrieking". Madgirl 15 (talk) 07:13, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
- Have you seen his music videos on youtube? To be fair, there really is a lot of shrieking. --76.115.67.114 (talk) 09:46, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
DUI
editEarlier this year, a video appeared online purporting to show Vitas being arrested on a DUI charge.[1] I can't find any verification of that in English, though. Could somebody who reads Russian research and, if necessary, add that information? --Simon Columbus (talk) 13:50, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
Rumors of being gay
editThere are recurrent rumors that Vitas is gay. Is anything known about his private life? 66.65.129.159 (talk) 03:10, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
- There are also recurrent rumours that he's married, but there seems to be little published (at least in English language) about his personal life: it would appear he prefers his private life to remain just that.Contains Mild Peril (talk) 06:38, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- P.S. Look how long he hugs the girl on stage in this video from one of his concerts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzU7ZybqhNI&feature=related - I think he's straight! :-) Contains Mild Peril (talk) 20:34, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- He's married to a woman named Svetlana since 2006. Frankyboy5 (talk) 05:00, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- If he's really married to an actual woman, it ought to be mentioned in the article. LOL --98.232.178.38 (talk) 04:11, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
- OK, I'll add it. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 01:58, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
- It never got added. And by the way...no fucking way is he straight. Deal with it. :P --RyanTee82 (talk) 03:57, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- If you checked the article history you would see that it was added, but was later removed because Vitas himself has never confirmed his marital status and there have been conflicting reports. It has been suggested that he keeps quiet about it to protect his family from crazy stalkers. If he wants to keep his private life private then people should be able to respect that without drawing conclusions from nothing more than speculation. My interest is in his creative output: personally, I don't especially care whether he's single or married, gay or straight, 28 or 30 years old or whatever. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 13:04, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- Right. Because straight people never have crazy stalkers. For shit's sake. Listen to yourself. Also, his relationship status would be relevant to the article - whether you like it or not. --RyanTee82 (talk) 09:42, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
- He's got a point. Mild Peril, you fail. Also, if the guy is actually married (which he isn't), it needs to be added to the article. That he doesn't have any girlfriends, either, is also glaring in the article. --208.65.188.23 (talk) 23:03, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
To clarify my previous comment, I did not mean to imply anything whatsoever about the relative probability of heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual celebrities attracting crazy stalkers, but it is probably fair to say that when publicly available information on others who may be close to the celebrity in question is limited, those others may be less likely to become stalker magnets than if their personal details and relationship with the celebrity were public. Do you guys really want me to add a "personal life" section just to say that he keeps his private life private? That's about the only thing we can actually verify (blogs and suchlike are not considered Reliable Sources). I could even cite sources to say that his personal life is "mysterious", but I'm not convinced it would add anything useful to the article.
To the anonymous editor above - "That he doesn't have any girlfriends, either, is also glaring in the article" - what? We're trying to run an encyclopaedia here, not a gossip magazine. If you think his marital status or other personal details "need" to be added to the article, good luck finding reliable sources. - Contains Mild Peril (talk) 06:58, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
http://newsmusic.ru/news_3_18410.htm Not gay - married, daughter. Maybe he is ready to let the public know now. Sounds like it from this article. Vitasfan (talk) 04:55, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
He has a daughter and wife, but that does not mean he's not gay. A lot of actors/singers are trying to hide the fact that they're gay. He can be bisexual. But it doesn't have anything to do with his life as an artist, so why bother? (Russianproducer81) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.200.122.36 (talk) 17:31, 29 March 2011 (UTC) (preceding comment moved from another section where it may have been posted in error - hope you don't mind Contains Mild Peril (talk) 02:35, 30 March 2011 (UTC))
- It doesn't matter whether he is bisexual or not: if no reliable sources say so, pure speculation has no place in the article. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 02:35, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
- If he has a wife and daughter then why the hell isn't it mentioned in the article? --76.115.67.114 (talk) 09:42, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- [BUMP] ^ THIS!!! THANK YOU! I think its interesting this part of the article has no citations. I'm going to deleted it in a few weeks unless someone adds one. I hope there's more activity here considering upcoming human rights shit-show with the olympics. And yeah, I'm talking about the homophobic firestorm. --98.246.156.76 (talk) 15:56, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
- PLEASE READ THIS COMMENT BELOW AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ( Grammar and spelling wise)!! I MADE THIS COMMENT UNDER THIS SUBJECT BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT IT FITS BEST IN. ( Note: I believe Svetlana was turning 16 that year, as I have read that there is only a 4 year age gap between the two. 15 is the age said in both interviews. And Vitas was around 19 nearly 20, so I have just wrote 20 down).
- In an Interview with the program "Let them Talk", hosted by Andrey Malakhov, Vitas (along with his mother-in-law) is asked about how he met Svetlana, his wife since 2006. Vitas claims to have met Svetlana after a concert backstage, when he was 20 and Svetlana was just 15 (which means it was the year 1999, when Vitas' career started rising). ( This show is just one of many interviews about Vitas' family, mostly all after 2010, hence why no one in this article knows much about his private life).
- After the concert had finished, he went up to her mother and asked to steal Svetlana for a few hours, which her mother ended up agreeing to. Not long after this, Svetlana's mother found out that she had left with Vitas to go to Moscow. Her mother was brought a note later on which she claims to have said " Mommy, forgive me. I love you very much, but I love Vitaly as well. That's why, so don't stop me. I Know everything will be very good with him and me. That's why I have decided to take such a step." In the interview Vitas then replies with "It was such a strong love that, even I, at the moment did not understand that she was underage and there could be legal proceedings against me."
- Then the host proceeds to asks: " So she was your first big love?", which Vitas replies with " Yes. When I first saw her, I looked into her eyes. You know, It was like an Electrical shock. I understood I couldn't live without this person, even for a second."
- Once they finally decided to go back to their hometown, they were forgiven by Svetlana's parents. They then got married in 2006, and had a daughter named Alla and a son later on called Maxim. They are still together and happily married. Vitas now brings his family with him when traveling, and has performed on stage with members of his family multiple times. Search " Витас и света, Птица счастья, КЦ Москвич , 9.12.2011.wmv " ( Vitas and Sveta, the bird of happiness, Moskvich culture center, 9.12.2011.wmv )
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Head voice vs. Falsetto
editI'm chiming in with others (at least one other, that is) on the topic of falsetto.
I am meanwhile really sick of the misused term "falsetto" when they actually mean "head voice". I changed it accordingly in the article and insist for it to stay this way!
Falsetto is a "tone" and not a "register", neither entails it anything about the note height. You can sing falsetto in bass, for example.
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Sorry for my anger, but I'm not alone. You can see a lot of explanatory videos, e.g. on Youtube, some of them having the undertone of being annoyed by this misconception just like me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Felix Tritschler (talk • contribs) 13:15, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
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editSomeone edited the article and messed up a section of Vitas' personal life: "Vitas has been known to be secretive about his personal life and has frequently declined interviews about it. He married his wife, Gianouxailidou, in 2006. They have a daughter and a son." If anyone can edit this (as I'm not sure how to myself,) and please replace that strange name with Svetlana, that would be greatly appreciated as it is (obviously) inaccurate. I don't even know who "Gianouxailidou" is anyway. EDIT: It's been fixed, thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.92.21.224 (talk) 19:56, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
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Page is so full of errors
editI used to edit here and have given up. Whoever wrote that Vitas wrote "rain in tblisi" as a child, why don't you Google who actually wrote that? Some things are easily found to be public knowledge. It is not helpful to fill wiki pages with legends and gossip. 2600:1017:A011:6BE9:A8E8:6E10:AC7E:8AFE (talk) 13:00, 20 April 2023 (UTC)