Talk:Vizier (Ancient Egypt)

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Is reference 5 a reliable source - it seems to be a blog not supported by a university or other relevant authority and is used as a reference to a large section of facts? Also there seems to be a need for citations for a lot of the comments in the list of viziers section. Mjconlin00 (talk) 21:47, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

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Not bad

not bad... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.3.4.205 (talk) 04:05, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I've been working on it for a while. Zuzzerack (talk) 02:14, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Really good page! But I'm not sure was Nefermaat the Younger son of Nefermaat the Elder. --Mychele Trempetich (talk) 07:42, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

no, the older was the younger's uncle. – Alensha ^talk 23:45, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

😐 -Danielle ^Talk 9:62, 7 June 2010 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.172.98.151 (talk)

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Article intro asserts in New Kingdom there were two viziers. Yet in table in section only Vizier of the South is noted?

Near the beginning of the article it is stated "In the New Kingdom, there were two viziers, one for Upper Egypt and one for Lower Egypt." Yet in the table of viziers of the New Kingdom (Vizier_(Ancient_Egypt)#New_Kingdom)), it appears that in most cases only the Vizier of the South is identified. Why?

There are a few cases in the table where the comments possibly suggest that the Vizier of the South was also the Vizier of the North. Am I reading the table correctly in this case? Greg Dahlen (talk) 13:12, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

I am not one of the editors who worked on the table, and I've never been all that clear on the division of responsibilities in pharaonic government, but I can partially answer your questions. First, archaeological evidence from Upper Egypt (the south) is much, much more likely to have survived than that in Lower Egypt (the north), for a variety of reasons. Therefore, we know the names of more southern viziers than northern. Second (based on just now flipping through a tome titled Ancient Egyptian Administration looking for mentions of the vizier), the north/south division didn't apply in every period of Egyptian history. During parts of the Old Kingdom there was one vizier for the vicinity of the capital and another for more outlying provinces. At the start of the New Kingdom there was one vizier, but early in that period the role was divided into north and south and stayed that way through most of the period. Based on things I've read in the past, it's possible that one regional vizier took over the responsibilities for the entire country when the other regional post was vacant. In any case, the situation was no doubt more complex than this article makes it look. Yet another Wikipedia article in need of improvement... A. Parrot (talk) 04:06, 2 August 2018 (UTC)