Talk:Vladikavkaz

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As far as I know, Vladikavkaz does not mean "Queen of the Caucasus" as stated in the Wikipedia article. A far more appropriate translation FROM RUSSIAN would be "Dominate the Caucasus" (vladi Kavkaz; rus. vladet' = to dominate); it is by the way analogous to Vladivostok = "Dominate the East".

The name clearly reflects the function of the town as the hub for Russian conquers in the Northern Caucasus region in 18th and 19th century. Even today North Ossetia (and especially the town of Mozdok in the nothern part of the Republic) serves as the major regional hub for the Russian war in Chechenya.

Vladikavkaz in Ossetian

Is it really so that the city is known by its old name in Ossetian (officially)?

-- Jason, 29 July 2005 - 15:22 GMT

Jason, yes it's really. Now official name of the city in Ossetian is "Dzæudjyqæu", and from 1944 to 1954 "Dzæudjyqæu" was official Russian name too.

/Cyril, 29.IX.2007 - 13:34 GMT +3/

Height and year of built of Vladikavkaz TV Mast

Vladikavkaz TV Mast is of unique design and there are obviously only 12 similiar masts all in Russia and Ukraine ( TV Tower Vinnytsia is the tallest of them). When was it built and how tall is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hermes3456 (talk • contribs) 17:45, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Dzæudjyqæu

Why "Dzæudjyqæu"??? if the right form in Ossetian was Dzæudžyqæu??? --Пъела (talk) 19:21, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Nice mosque

It looks a Byzantine-style mosque, more proper for Russia than other Arabian-like mosques recently built in Kazan or Grozny.--83.57.48.93 (talk) 23:57, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Style

If the Germans were repelled, they'll have been unsuccessful - one of the two is enough!Maelli (talk) 16:22, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

prospekt mira

prospekt mira does not translate to mira avenue. it is: avenue of peace. someone please fix that.

Proper names are not translated, they are transliterated. "Мира" is the proper name ("peace" in genitive); "проспект" is the entity type (not a part of the proper name), so it is translated (avenue). Everything is the way it should be, with nothing to fix.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); January 4, 2017; 21:05 (UTC)

Official Name Vladikavkaz (Russian) Dzæudžyqæu (Ossetian)

http://region15.ru/docs/vladikavkaz/ http://vladikavkaz-osetia.ru/city/history.php — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edmundo Vargas (talk • contribs) 16:46, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Vladikavkaz is the capital city of the Republic of North Ossetia–Alania. Official Languages: Russian and Ossetian. http://docs.cntd.ru/document/304200016 Edmundo Vargas —Preceding undated comment added 17:27, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

• [1]. Слушай хватить уже играть. Тебя обижает ингушское название? так это твои проблемы. --Дагиров Умар (talk) 21:05, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

It deletes information from the source. This city is associated with the Ingush. The city was the capital of the Ingush Autonomous District. Ingush expelled from Ossetia. --Дагиров Умар (talk) 01:52, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

East Prigorodny Conflict. --Дагиров Умар (talk) 01:55, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

 :::Vladikavkaz has never been the capital of Ingushetia! Vladikavkaz has never been part of Ingushetia! The East Prigorodny Conflict, also referred to as the Ossetian-Ingush Conflict, was an inter-ethnic conflict in the eastern part of the Prigorodny district (Not in Vladikavkaz) in the Republic of North Ossetia–Alania. Vladikavkaz officially has two names Vladikavkaz (Russian) Dzæudžyqæu (Ossetian).http://vladikavkaz-osetia.ru/city/history.php http://region15.ru/docs/vladikavka Edmundo Vargas  —Preceding undated comment added 09:30, 22 April 2017 (UTC) 

• Please make sure to write comments in English, so that other editors can participate in the discussion. El_C 10:11, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

 :::According to the results of the 2010 Census, city population of Vladikavkaz was 330 148 men.The ethnic makeup of city's population was:Ossetians: 210,104 (63.9%)Russians: 80,945 (24.5%)Armenians: 11,697 (3.5%)Georgians: 7,014 (2.2%)Ingush: 3,225 (1.1%)Azerbaijanians: 2,212 (0.7%)Ukrainians: 1,857 (0.6%)Greeks: 1,819 (0.5%)Others: 11,275 (3.4%). Ingush represent 1% of the population. Vladikavkaz is the capital of the Republic of North Ossetia-Alania(Not Ingushetia). Ingush language is not official! Official Name Vladikavkaz (Russian) Dzæudžyqæu (Ossetian).--Edmundo Vargas (talk) 14:37, 23 April 2017 (UTC)  

Protected edit request on 23 April 2017

Remove the unofficial names of the city.Official Name Vladikavkaz (Russian) Dzæudžyqæu (Ossetian).http://region15.ru/docs/vladikavkaz/ http://vladikavkaz-osetia.ru/city/history.php The version with official names was stable for 12 years. The user who wants to add another name (unofficial) has stopped discussing. If you're still in trouble - take a look from here:https://www.britannica.com/place/Vladikavkaz Edmundo Vargas (talk) 09:18, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Is this what the dispute is about though? El_C 10:11, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Yes! Examples of other capitals of Autonomous Republics : Grozny https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grozny ; Nalchik https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nalchik ; Cheboksary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheboksary ; Kazan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazan ;Khanty-Mansiysk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khanty-Mansiysk ; Ufa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ufa; Kyzyl https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyzyl It is indicated : Russian Name and Local Official Name. Vladikavkaz is the capital of the Republic of North Ossetia-Alania. Official Languages: Russian and Ossetian. Official Name Vladikavkaz (Russian) Dzæudžyqæu (Ossetian).--Edmundo Vargas (talk) 12:14, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

The Ingush are citizens of North Ossetia and live in the city and in the suburban Prigorodny district. I gave authoritative sources where there is a title. And again, Wikipedia is not a Russian state project.--Дагиров Умар (talk) 13:52, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

The fortress of Vladikavkaz was founded on the site of the Ingush village of Zaurovo.--Дагиров Умар (talk) 14:36, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

As we see here you need neutrality.--Дагиров Умар (talk) 14:50, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Not everything is as unambiguous as a colleague wants to present. The article itself is not neutral. The historical city is connected by two peoples. If you remove the name it will be unfair. Thank you. --Дагиров Умар (talk) 15:04, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

The Russian Fortress of Vladikavkaz was founded on the site of the Ossetian village of Dzæudžyqæu ( lit. Dzaug's settlement).http://vladikavkaz-osetia.ru/city/history.php .Official Name :Vladikavkaz (Russian) Dzæudžyqæu (Ossetian).Russian and Ossetian are two official languages of the Republic.--Edmundo Vargas (talk) 15:29, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Tel Aviv is the capital of Israel in the article specified and the Arabic name.--Дагиров Умар (talk) 16:40, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Zaurovo(Russian)(lit. Dzaug's settlement in Ossetian). "Рallas P. S. Tagebuch einer Reise die im Jahr 1781 von der Granzfestung Mosdok nach dem innern Caucasus unternommen worden. - St. Petersburg ; Leipzig, 1797" Published in 1797 (page 45) "Dorfe Saurow ......Es ist erste Ossetische Ort" ENG: Zaurovo Village ........First OSSETIAN town" http://elib.shpl.ru/nodes/26662#page/1/mode/grid/zoom/1 (page 45 ->) http://elib.shpl.ru/nodes/26662#page/51/mode/inspect/zoom/4--Edmundo Vargas (talk) 16:56, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Tel Aviv is a major city in Israel (Official languages Hebrew and Arabic)--Edmundo Vargas (talk) 17:00, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

I've written to you many times Wikipedia is not a state re-store here they write articles based on authoritative sources. And what you say does not matter.--Дагиров Умар (talk) 17:16, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

"And what you say does not matter"(c) "Great argument"!Bravo!--Edmundo Vargas (talk) 17:27, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit protected}} template. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:58, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

I think this is a violation. Deleting information from sources.

He gave sources where there are two official languages. But this does not give him any right to delete information from sources. --Дагиров Умар (talk) 22:09, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

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