Talk:Voice vote
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Relevance in Wikipedia
editThis article could be made more relevant to maintaining in the Wikipedia namespace if a list is given of countries/political systems in which the voice vote is used.
I think the use of a voice vote by Jack Murtha in the House of Representatives should be a good note on how this vote can be abused.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywgUCdefSW8 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.89.240.229 (talk) 21:09, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Clarification
editI couldn't get from the article exactly how a voice vote works. Does everyone just shout at the same time? Do they queue up and tell people in a Catholic confession-style booth? How? I'm adding a context tag... 128.243.220.22 14:07, 1 November 2005 (UTC) (comment initially made by jdcooper when not signed in)
- How is the article now? I took off the context tag already. Johnleemk | Talk 16:59, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks, it makes more sense to me now. So they all just make noise when the question is asked, and the speaker has to judge which shout-out was louder? Instead of being confused, i am now worried instead, it doesnt seem like a very accurate and precise way of running a country :/ Jdcooper 16:10, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- Heh, usually it's unanimous (or close to that) and it's quite easy to tell whether the motion passed or not. If there's even a hint of a discrepancy, you can bet someone will motion for a recorded vote. Johnleemk | Talk 06:30, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
- Hmm, that's as may be, but the article mentions that: This tactic is used when the matter in question is either uncontroversial or paradoxically when the matter at hand is quite controversial and participants wish for "political cover." How does it work in this case? Jdcooper 09:47, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
Country
edit"One such example is the Hughes Amendment. [...] The Senate passed the final S.49 on April 10, 1986 by voice vote and it was signed by the President on May 19, 1986."
in which country ?
"A voice vote in a legislative body refers to a vote taken on a topic where the participants merely respond verbally to a question with a spoken "yea" (yes), "nay" (no), or "present" (abstain) vote."
I suppose that this refers to english speaking countries ? or to the USA ?
In public elections
editThis page focuses entirely on voice voting as it is used today, and fails to discuss its broader historic use. Prior to the adoption of the secret ballot viva voce voting was extremely common in general elections, and this Wikipedia page needs to deal with this so that it can be properly cited in pages that address the history of public elections. George Caleb Bingham's painting, The County Election, and William Hogarth's painting, The Polling both illustrate general elections (one in Missouri, one in England) carried out by voice vote. Several US patents were filed in the 19th century for pollbooks that simplified the polling place clerk's job of recording such votes. I wrote about this subject briefly in Section 2.1 of my book, Broken Ballots, (CSLI 2012); some of the sources I cite there are clearly relevant. Voice voting continues to be used in the Landsgemeinde of some Swiss cantons, although in that case, the electorate of the canton convenes as a legislative assembly, and as such, the discussion here is more directly applicable. Douglas W. Jones (talk) 16:05, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
Merge with Voting methods in deliberative assemblies
editI think this article should merge into Voting methods in deliberative assemblies. Ronruser (talk) 16:43, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
- On second thought, I'll leave it alone. Ronruser (talk) 21:07, 23 February 2016 (UTC)