Talk:Voting in the Council of the European Union

Passing a vote versus blocking a vote

I don't think it makes sense to distinguish conditions to pass a vote and conditions to block a vote. The correct way to state the condition to pass a vote according to the Reform treaty is:

• the proposal must be backed by at least 55% (that is 15) of member states (or 72%, that is 20, if not acting on a proposal by the Commission), and
• the countries supporting the proposal represent at least 65% of the total EU population, or
• the proposal is supported by all countries except at most three (in other words, when this applies, the condition on the population is not required — the first condition is automatically satisfied, of course).

The way the article is currently worded makes you think there is a situation when the vote is not passed but not blocked either, which is absurd. Unless someone objects, I will rephrase this (and merge the section "Conditions to block a vote" in the section "Conditions to pass a vote"). --Gro-Tsen 11:59, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree. Go ahead! --Roentgenium111 (talk) 20:35, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

When I see "blocking a vote", I take that to mean the use of dilatory tactics or other parliamentary procedure to keep a proposal from being brought to a vote, as a separate question from what the threshold for passage is if the proposal is voted on. --Dan Wylie-Sears 2 (talk) 17:46, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Population Requirement

Would it be worth mentioning Blocking Minority as a term? It is a very widespread and important concept? Ajem (talk) 14:01, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I will research the combinations of votes that utilise the Population rule. I have nine so far... Ajem (talk) 14:03, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

NB the population figures need to be updated I think. Will do some digging.Ajem (talk) 14:01, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

QMV vs unanimous

Do we have an article that spells out which areas retain unanimous voting? Can Cyprus still veto the entry of Turkey? kwami (talk) 09:59, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

According to Enlargement of the EU, they can:

"According to the Maastricht Treaty, each current member state and the European Parliament must agree to any enlargement."

(I don't know if the article is still up-to-date, though. But I think this specific hasn't changed.) --Roentgenium111 (talk) 20:40, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Enlargement process requires unanimous decisions at various points (including final ratification by national parliaments), so technically Cyprus can veto any new member.

As a general note - it would be beneficial if we have a list of decisions showing voting type (QMV/unanimous/etc.) - currently we have such list for the topics changed by the Lisbon treaty, but we don't have those that remain unchanged. Alinor (talk) 06:59, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Link to a redirect back to this article

Qualified majority voting redirects here, but has a link in this article. There's another link in this article, qualified majority voting that redirects to supermajority. It's not clear to me if there's a distinction that should be noted in the supermajority article, or what. --Dan Wylie-Sears 2 (talk) 17:56, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Question

I thought only European Commission has the right of initiative, so how can be threshold be raised to 72% if any initiative does not come from EC ?

Siyac 18:12, 08 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siyac (talk • contribs)

Another question

Does this article need to be updated to reflect Croatia, which is mentioned in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_state_of_the_European_Union, and http://europa.eu/about-eu/countries/member-countries/index_en.htm but not here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.0.51.128 (talk) 17:53, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

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This article needs and update to QMV numbers after Brexit.

This article (and at least some of the versions in other languages) needs and update to QMV numbers after Brexit. Reslfj (talk) 12:00, 12 September 2024 (UTC)