Talk:WHA Junior Hockey League

Merge discussion

Armstrong Sharks, Bellingham Bulls, Lumby Fighting Saints, Osoyoos Whalers, Squamish Cougars, Vancouver Whalers --> WHA Junior Hockey League

So yeah, to be honest it seems that this league is probably now defunct. The owner of the league is supposedly heavily in debt and is reported to be somewhat in hiding by different people involved in the league. None of the teams are community or locally owned, and as what was seen with the New Westminster/Burnaby/Vancouver/Osoyoos Whalers situation this year a team can just be picked up and moved without much concern as if it is a rec league team that needs a cheaper venue. I feel that all of these team articles and their two history would be better off in one large article on the main WHAJHL page. If there is another season, it will be doubtful that the teams will be in the same cities, let alone the same province.

Any thoughts? DMighton (talk) 10:19, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I liked the bit on the WHA website about how in the last game between the Whalers and the Sharks the latter team showed up with four forward lines, having picked up some late season warm bodies, while the former only had two ... shots 53-15. From everything I've seen, if we merge, you and I are the only ones who'll even notice.  Ravenswing  12:42, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I would merge and redirect. Worst case scenario if it even got its act together which I doubt it will, you could just demerge them again. -Djsasso (talk) 14:18, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I have went ahead with the merge. DMighton (talk) 19:46, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

This merge was done in less than one day with no vote?!? A little notice would of been nice mate—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:--67.160.114.194 (talk) 04:21, 26 April 2008 (UTC)|--67.160.114.194 (talk) 04:21, 26 April 2008 (UTC)]] ([[User talk:--67.160.114.194 (talk) 04:21, 26 April 2008 (UTC)|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/--67.160.114.194 (talk) 04:21, 26 April 2008 (UTC)|contribs]])

Well mate, merges aren't done through vote process. Also, as Ravenswing and I have been the only people keeping these pages going for two years and we have lent our opinions... which was then agreed upon by an administrator. This is also not the first conversation about merging this league's teams up.

Either way, all teams that were merged were all owned by the same guy. Players were freely moved from team to team (just look at last year's final)... and this league is dead in the water. If Ricky Smith somehow manages to pay off his gazillion bill collectors, comes out of hiding, and somehow convinces the towns of Osoyoos, Lumby, Squamish, Oliver, and Armstrong as well as the established franchises in Barrhead and Fort Vancouver to trust him again... and runs a season that keeps its game number mandate, its agreements with the GMHL, and doesn't run a mickey mouse playoff... then we could probably reconsider. The last real team to play in Osoyoos was the Storm... not the Ricky Smith WHA memorabilia Spurs/Whalers. We were all sad to see them go, but if you care about Osoyoos hockey so bad... stir local interest and try to get the KIJHL back in town... not the gongshow WHA. DMighton (talk) 04:41, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Please do not take offence to this... the bottom line is that the WHA is ripping you guys off... I know you guys like your hockey... you guys probably miss the Storm... which were a great team... but the Spurs are a Ricky Smith advertisement on ice... it is a shame that the kids and the town got scammed. DMighton (talk) 04:43, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

The Squamish Cougars ended their second and final season in Squamish as troubles with the startup World Hockey Association continued, but a new hockey program has already stepped up to fill in the gap.

Next season Squamish will host an expansion team for the well-established Pacific International Junior Hockey League, the Squamish Wolf Pack. With the addition of the Aldergrove Kodiaks, there are now 10 teams in the league, most based in the Lower Mainland.

Matt Samson, the former coach and manager for the Squamish Cougars, is sticking around to coach the Wolf Pack. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Icecrunch (talk • contribs) 22:02, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Expansion

Heh, get the impression that they're trading out for a whole new bunch of villages that have no idea what they're getting into?  Ravenswing  16:37, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah... this league is a very sad example of independent hockey. I am glad the GMHL is not affiliated with this group anymore. DMighton (talk) 21:12, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

• I couldn't find anything on current schedule or anything on the Web referencing the league in the last month or any of the teams. Looks like the overblown farce that has been the new "WHA" for (!) six years now is finally, finally, done. It's sad to see Hull go out this way; one wonders if he really needed the cash all that badly, and whether he's even still connected with this malarkey.  Ravenswing  07:14, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Holy heck

... some yahoos trusted Smith again? This guy must be one of the best con artists alive.  Ravenswing  10:23, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Apparently the Venezuelan gov't!!! I didn't know the thing about his wife though. DMighton (talk) 11:24, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

It was in the article you cited.  Ravenswing  05:02, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

I only skimmed the article, that is hilarious.... I'll have to go back and read it again! DMighton (talk) 05:21, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

stop talking crap about people that you dont even know. you have no idea because you were NOT there. and "his wife" is NOT wanted by the interpol. if you look her up on the interpol website you see that she does not turn up, and that's because she's NOT wanted by the interpol. i dont think you people realize that what you write is ruining these peoples lives and is highly biased. if you spoke to them yourselves you would understand exactly what happened with the WHA AND with the GBL. k. miller — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.121.4.72 (talk) 13:52, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

All things listed on this article about Smith come from newspapers sources. If you believe the newspapers are lying, you should write the newspaper and get them retract their statements. The interpol statement has been removed as it was hearsay by an interviewee. Would you also like to contact the people of Osoyoos, Armstrong, Barrhead River, Oliver, New Westminster, etc... and their bus companies... and arena managers... and town council-people and tell them they just don't understand either? Have a good day. DMighton (talk) 02:04, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

I'll do you a favour since you are so upset about it... I will request the members of the Ice Hockey WikiProject have a look at the article. DMighton (talk) 21:08, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

What DMighton said: since we can only report what has been reported by the newspapers or other reliable sources, if you have a problem with that, your only recourse is to write those newspapers and attempt to rebut them. As far as whether we are "ruining" Ricky Smith's life by printing published reports of his many deeds, I suggest that he did more harm to himself by doing them than by other people reporting them. Ravenswing 00:44, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

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