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GA Review

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Reviewer: SNUGGUMS (talk · contribs) 22:58, 1 July 2014 (UTC)Reply


Overview

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Prose: See below

Sourcing: See below

Coverage: See below

Neutrality: See below

Stability: No issues

GA Result: Failed. I'm very sorry to say that this nomination was quite premature given its prose issues and uncited statements. Since this article has previously gotten little input from peer reviews (except the third peer review) and was quickly rejected at FAC this past May, I strongly recommend taking this article to the Guild of Copy Editors before renominating. It wouldn't hurt to also set up another peer review before renomination, though be sure to get lots of input before renominating for GA. Better luck next time.

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Infobox
  • I don't think "Caucasian" should be used for "ethnicity" field- if using this parameter, be more specific (i.e. English, French, German, Dutch)
  • "Co-founder of The Walt Disney Company, formerly known as Walt Disney Productions" would read better as simply "Co-founder of The Walt Disney Company"
  • Political affiliations should be supported within article body with citations
  • How about listing a more specific division of Christianity for "religion" (i.e. Protestantism, Catholicism, Eastern Orthodox Church) or even a specific sect of a division (i.e. Baptist, Episcopalian, or Methodist for Protestant)? It should also be supported within the article body with citations.
  • Sharon redirects to Disney family page, either correct this or remove the link to her altogether
  • You have both a "relatives" field and a "family" field..... only a "relatives" field would be needed, and just list his siblings and nephew in it
Lead
  • "an American business magnate, animator, cartoonist, producer, director, screenwriter, philanthropist, and voice actor"..... I'd remove "cartoonist" as it seems redundant to have that and "animator" in the same sentence.
  • "As a major figure"..... prominent figure would be better
  • "known for his influence and contributions to the field of entertainment" → "known for his contributions to entertainment"
  • "As a Hollywood business mogul he co-founded, with his brother Roy O. Disney, Walt Disney Productions, one of the major motion picture production companies in the world. The corporation is now known as The Walt Disney Company and had an annual revenue of approximately US$45 billion in the 2013 financial year"..... quite a mouthful, how about "As a Hollywood business mogul, he and his brother Roy co-founded The Walt Disney Company studios"?
  • "He and his staff created some of the world's most iconic fictional characters, including Mickey Mouse, whose original voice was provided by Disney himself"..... "iconic" in this instance is borderline WP:PEACOCK. Let's try something like "He and his staff created various fictional characters including Mickey Mouse. Disney himself was the original voice for Mickey"
  • Remove the second link to Roy in this section per WP:OVERLINK
Beginnings
Childhood
  • A better title for this section would be "Early life"
  • As a general note, using citations more than once in a row within a paragraph is WP:OVERCITE. This occurs with ref's #13, #14, and #21
  • "Disney was born on December 5, 1901, at 2156 North Tripp Avenue in Chicago's Hermosa community area to Irish-Canadian father Elias Disney and Flora Call Disney, who was of German and English descent. His great-grandfather, Arundel Elias Disney, had emigrated from Gowran, County Kilkenny, Ireland where he was born in 1801. Arundel Disney was a descendant of Robert d'Isigny, a Frenchman who had travelled to England with William the Conqueror in 1066. With the d'Isigny name anglicized as 'Disney', the family settled in a village now known as Norton Disney, south of the city of Lincoln, in the county of Lincolnshire"..... this needs revising. I can see that Elias had French heritage, but where did the Irish ancestry come in (not counting Arundel living in Ireland)? Unless this grandfather of Elias' had Irish roots separate from his French roots and/or Elias had some other Irish roots, I'd keep it simple and say that Elias was descended from Frenchman Robert d'Isigny who later anglicized his name to "Disney". If Elias has Irish roots that don't come from this grandfather, then it's find to say Elias had French and Irish heritage.
  • The detail on Elias coming from Canada is fine, but the marriage details belong in his article and Flora's article, not here.
  • In addition to brother Roy and sister Ruth, make note of Walt's other two elder brothers since they were mentioned in the infobox
  • Make note that Roy is Walt's elder brother
  • There should be a comma between "In Marceline" and "Disney"
  • "spot his uncle, engineer Michael Martin, conducting the train" is missing a citation
  • You mention twice that Walt's sister Ruth was younger than him, just say once that she was younger than him (preferably the first instance)
  • "He found the work exhausting and often dozed in his desk. His grades suffered as a result"..... often got poor grades from sleeping in class would read better.
  • "He continued working this schedule for more than six years"..... how about continued his paper route for more than six years?
Teenage years
  • The first two paragraphs seem short (particularly the second one). If these can't be expanded, I'd merge them together into one paragraph
  • More WP:OVERCITE with ref#28
  • "He considered a career as an actor but decided he wanted to draw political caricatures or comic strips for a newspaper" → "He considered becoming an actor, but decided to draw political caricatures or comic strips for a newspaper"
Start of animation career
  • Needs space between "1937" and "start" for section title
Laugh-O-Gram Studio
  • "Unfortunately, studio profits were insufficient" is POV, However would be a more neutral term
Film and business career in Hollywood
  • Remove the comma between "October" and "1923"
Alice Comedies
  • If these two incomplete paragraphs can't be expanded, I'd combine them into one complete paragraph
  • "resembled Felix the Cat, rather than the live-action Alice" needs a citation
Oswald the Lucky Rabbit
  • The entire first paragraph needs to be cited
  • I think two paragraphs would be better than three here
Silly Symphonies
  • "He returned to Disney in 1940 and go on to pioneer a number of film processes and specialized animation technologies in the studio's research and development department" needs to be cited
Children
  • This section would be better titled "Fatherhood"
  • The info on Diane and Sharon's children would belong in articles on them, not here. While the detail on their involvement (and Ron Miller's involvement) with Disney studios is useful, the rest doesn't really belong
  • Remove the second link to Diane per WP:OVERLINK
  • Fix the Sharon redirect or remove it altogether
  • WordPress is not a reliable source
Golden age of animation
"Disney's Folly"
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
  • "The film premiered at the Carthay Circle Theater on December 21, 1937 and at its conclusion the audience gave Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs a standing ovation"..... too lengthy, try and received praise upon release.
Subsequent success
  • "Snow White was not only the peak of Disney's success, but also ushered in a period that would later be known as the Golden Age of Animation for the studio"..... bit lengthy, let's try "Snow White began an era that would later be known as the 'Golden Age of Animation' for the studio"
  • This section should just be one paragraph
Post-war period
Disney and the Second Red Scare
  • Merge this section into just one paragraph
Theme parks and beyond
Planning Disneyland
  • Rather than ", there should be ' inside the quote, so for example it reads "'Herbie'" rather than ""Herbie""
Expansion into new areas
  • "During Disney's lifetime, the animation department created the successful Lady and the Tramp (the first animated film in CinemaScope) in 1955, Sleeping Beauty (the first animated film in Super Technirama 70mm) in 1959, One Hundred and One Dalmatians (the first animated feature film to use Xerox cels) in 1961, and The Sword in the Stone in 1963" needs to be cited
Early 1960s success
  • This section should just be one paragraph
Illness and Death
  • "chain smoker" would read better as "frequent smoker"
  • "The last thing he reportedly wrote before his death was the name of actor Kurt Russell, the significance of which remains a mystery, even to Russell"..... is this really needed?
  • "Star Pulse" isn't exactly a reliable source
  • The info before the quote should be either one or two paragraphs, not one large paragraphs followed by two incomplete paragraphs
Hibernation urban legend
  • This section should just be one paragraph
Legacy
  • This section shouldn't have a time range
Walt Disney Family Museum
Accusations of antisemitism and racism
  • "In a CBS interview Gabler summarized his findings"..... how about "Gabler told CBS"?
  • "ethnic stereotypes"..... this would read better as simply "stereotypes"
Academy Awards
  • All but two of these awards are missing citations
Other honors
  • There are many incomplete paragraphs in this section, merge some of them
  • "The Walt Disney Concert Hall in Los Angeles, California, opened in 2003, was named in his honor" needs to be cited
References

Thank you, SNUGGUMS! The only thing I wish to say is that it is rather awkward to put all citations here again when the information has been split to List of Academy Awards for Walt Disney.Forbidden User (talk) 15:09, 7 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

You're very welcome. I understand what you're saying about refs, but the burden is on you to support all claims you insert with reliable sources. Providing a referral link to another article isn't enough. SNUGGUMS (talk · contribs) 15:39, 7 July 2014 (UTC)Reply
Then I should put only the notable ones here. It has been mentioned in the latest peer review.Forbidden User (talk) 17:39, 8 July 2014 (UTC)Reply
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