Talk:Walter Breuning

New box of the world's oldest men since 1974

I recently came up with and idea to make a box of the world's oldest man since 1974 with Walter Breuning's name in bold. We can also do one for the world's oldest people as well. Plyjacks (talk) 19:07, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Plyjacks do i have to pay for an account on your website the 110 club?

Added indentation for the above by 74.226.189.47 only. Lycurgus (talk) 21:02, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Future

I was just wondering if anyone thinks he will overtake the undisputed male record of all time (115 years 252 days)? I think yes. He seems unusually healthy for his age and appears to have no major health problems. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.164.222.9 (talk) 04:44, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

115 y 252 d is essentially 116. If I understand the relevant actuarial mathematics, the expectancy of a healthy supercentenarian in any one year is about 50% so the event in question would have a crude probability of about 13% now but still 50% in 2012 CE. 72.228.150.44 (talk) 21:13, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

115 years, 252 days is NOT essentially 116. It's 113 days short of 116. It's 115.69.Ryoung122 06:21, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Breuning is the last living U.S. male of the 19th century. 111 year old Andrew Hatch, 112 year old Ronnie Fairbanks and 120 year old Swami Bua are the only others. After them, its a whole new different century. I may be going off topic but when the last survivor of the 19th century passes away, im considering leaving Wikipedia, atleast for the work part. My main focus is essentially on 19th century supercents (b. 1899 or under). Those are my thoughts on it now.--Nick Ornstein (talk) 21:35, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

John Babcock was also born in the 19th century as he was born in 1900. SiameseTurtle (talk) 22:39, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

No he is not. We are living in the 21st century today. Last century (1900s) was the 20th century. And the century before that was the 19th century (1800s). I sure hope that you know what a century is. XDDDDDDD --Nick Ornstein (talk) 00:42, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

No, John Babcock was born in the 19th century as the 19th century lasted from 1801 to 1900 (NOT from 1800 to 1899, as there was no year 0, and thus the first century went from year 1 to 100, and so on). Thus since Babcock was born in 1900, he WAS born at the end of the 19th century. Only people born between 1901 and 2000 are considered born in the 20th century.

I still think that based on his current health he will live until at least age 116. I guess we'll wait and see in three years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.164.222.9 (talk) 06:41, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

A lot of people don't know we start the 21st century with the year 2001. However, there is just something extra special about someone born in the 1890's, as opposed to 1900. I guess it is because they were born in the 18's lived through all of the 19's and into the 20's. Soon to be 2K10. As for Walter making it to 120, the odds are against it. I hope he does! Hope he makes 125. However, for one thing he is a man, and that is against him, and second being in very good shape is a plus of course, but at that age you can go to sleep, and never wake up. Just like the prior oldest man (I forgot his name) He was in GREAT shape, born in 1895, and was in fact talking about living to age 120 to 125. I thought he would make it, and so did he and his family, but without warning or sickness, he died in his sleep. Once you get to these great ages (health is a plus, almost a must) it doesn't mean much in predicting you will live to see 115. Your body is just wearing out. Most bodies like ours will wear out many years before Walters! The odds of any of us reading this article, to live to 110 is very doubtful. Sorry to bust bubbles, but at present there are well under 200 people in the WORLD at present 110. In fact the number is much closer to 100. People say oh science is making great strides. Well more, many more people are living to 100, but there has always been that one or two that reach 111. It's just within the last decade or so there happen to be more making it to 114 or 115. However it pretty much gets slim pickens after 115. Only a couple per billions see anything past 113 (PershingBoy)63.3.10.2 (talk) 01:55, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

In any case, I think Breuning will be able to make it to at least 114. The reports on his health seem promising enough. There's a high probability we'll see his name up there with the other 9 oldest men ever in 146 days' time. Brendan_ology 13:19, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Replace 114 with 116 and I will also agree with you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.164.222.9 (talk) 01:52, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Please consider the fact that he has been smoking for a long time already. Yes, it's not affecting his health, but 116 is still a very unsafe estimate for a male of all people. There is a much, much better chance of his reaching 114 than 116. He might just pay for his smoking habit in 2 years' time. You never know. Brendanology^ContriB 10:49, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Today he is 114 years and 183 days - it's precisely halfway from 113 to 116. I am not apologist of "longevity race", I just accept the facts as they are, but this numbers are impressive (for male subdivision of supercentenaries, of cource).109.205.248.237 (talk) 19:59, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Something notable is that it was new decade in 2011 as well as now in 2021, and NOT in 2010 and 2020 'cause the 1st decade of the 21st century is 2001-2010!

A decade is a period which ends after a multiple of 10 (full) years, just as a century is a period which ends after a multiple of 100 (full) years and a millennium a period which ends after a multiple of one thousand years. As the first year (A.D.) was the year 1, the first millennium (A.D.) ends (in the end of) year 1000, the second millennium (in the end of) year 2000 and so on.

So, Jiroemon Kimura was the last living man born before the 1900s after Breuning's death but NOT the last living man born in the 19th century, 'cause there were three other living men born in the year 1900 during Kimura's time as the oldest living man: James Sisnett (who died just less than 3 weeks before Kimura), Tanekichi Onishi and Jan Goossenaerts. Besides that, there were at least two other 1890s-born men besides Breuning and Kimura who lived to 2010: Kiyotoshi Inoue and Tokio Watanabe. However, Breuning and Kimura were the only two pre-1900 born men who were living in the 2nd decade of the 21st century, as the decade is 2011-2020 (and NOT 2010-2019). 213.65.211.63 (talk) 22:15, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Day counter?

Should we add a day counter to his infobox? He is, after all, the world's oldest living man. What are your views? 218.186.12.227 (talk) 12:24, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes, we should. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.164.222.9 (talk) 02:46, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Done. I think there's little point in giving the day counter if it's to be hidden in the text (see first paragraph). I think we'd better be upfront with his age in years and days. 218.186.12.225 (talk) 11:03, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Name

Does Walter have a middle name? If so...what is it? --Nick Ornstein (talk) 23:34, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

It appears he may not have one. Your unverified list caught my attention. It's a shame more can't be done there since if even one of those in the top 5 pannned out it would displace Jeanne Calment. What do you think the likelihood is that one of them is actually their purported age? In a case like Maria Olivia, even if there a no birth record, you would think there would at least be something from her childhood or young adulthood that gives a clue. The age of the adopted son does not seem like convincing counter evidence to me in and of itself. 72.228.177.92 (talk) 13:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Seventh grade

at the age of 11? 77.127.114.192 (talk) 19:46, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Don't see why not. I was. I started kindergarten one year and finished that academic year at the end of 1st grade. I began the 7th grade academic year at 11 and ended it at 12. Prolly similiar for him being in a rural area. Lycurgus (talk) 07:39, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Now among 100 oldest people ever

Congratulations from Russia, Mr. Breuning! 109.205.248.233 (talk) 00:45, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Congratualtions on reaching a new milestone Walter, with hopefully many more to come! Christopedia (talk) 06:03, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Ask Walter

Should this be mentioned in the article? It’s from his retirement home’s website: http://www.rainbowalf.com/p/assisted_living/ask_walter/great-falls-mt-59401-3152/rainbow-retirement-3315

As the summary says: “Click the "ask walter" button to the right to enter your question for Walter Bruening. His responses will be filmed on Tuesday, August 31, 2010 and linked to this site. Ask Walter about his 113+ years of experiences.” TomRed (talk) 17:30, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

There were a lot of useful answers in the ask walter video posted to the site. We should probably use some of those to our advantage. We also need to research his family life a little better. We have nearly no information on his family life, and if we are going to get this article out of start (rating), we will need some more information on that aspect of his life. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Berries and cream 33 (talk • contribs) 01:05, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

FYI

I have used this article as an example in a discussion at WT:N. The focus of the discussion is intended to be generalized... what happens to the notability of record holders when someone else takes the record (in terms of this article... the question is what happens to Walter's notability when he dies, and someone else becomes the oldest man). Please feel free to swing by and comment. Blueboar (talk) 14:48, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Notability is NOT temporary, he will still be notable because he was the worlds oldest man. Longevitydude (talk) 16:36, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Records

Is becoming one of the 70th oldest people ever worth listing under his records/longevity achievements. All of his other records are very notable (oldest man in the world, in minnesota, third oldest in world, etc.)and top 70 of the oldest ever really does not seem worth listing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.40.131.54 (talk) 02:32, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I believe it does, and when he becomes the 60th oldest verified person of all time, that will be recorded as well. Christopedia (talk) 09:08, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Incumbent

If there's anything in the wikipedia or wiktionary entries for "Incumbent" that suggests the use of that word in a succession box about longevity, it's exceedingly well-hidden. This is all of a piece with the deeply unencyclopedic view that old age is a contest, whose "winners," "record-holders," and "record-breakers" are inherently notable. David in DC (talk) 00:33, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Cause of death

The "natural cause" is currently undisclosed. We cannot know ATM if it will turn out to be a condition which was ignored due to Walter's age and might have been treatable had it been diagnosed and addressed in time. Unlike most supers, Walter was more or less healthy. 72.228.177.92 (talk) 17:06, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Oldest American Man

Does anyone know who the Oldest American Man is know that Walter has died, might be good if we could find out so we could put it at the bottom of the page. I was looking at the living Supercentenarian list and it does not look like there are any American Men who are currently over 110. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.98.40.217 (talk) 21:55, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

There doesn't appear to be an undisputed male super. Albert Plummer is 111+ but apparently he's disputed. Not unexpected as > 90% of supers are female. 72.228.177.92 (talk) 01:00, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Shelby Harris is I think the sole current verified male American super. The Plummer case seems to have gone nowhere. 72.228.189.184 (talk) 04:12, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

trivializing dingleberry sentences

Suggest meaningless petty factoids in last two sentences of current lede be removed. Lycurgus (talk) 19:13, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

How did Breuning vote for Wilson when he was 20?

Woodrow Wilson last ran for President in 1916, when Breuning was 20. The 26th Amendment wasn't adopted until 1971, so he probably wasn't eligible to vote in that election for President since he was under 21. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.120.161.230 (talk) 20:41, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Doughboy status

Wikipedia is very liberal with it's naming of World War One Veteran. All you need to do is have enlisted with a participation nation before the war ended of the world. Florence Green who is the last veteran only served for a couple months as a waitress on an airbase. I wonder if enlisting with the US would make him a world war one veteran and likewise the last of the doughboys (American Veterans) having outlived Frank. W. Buckles by a couple months (I Dan tha Man I (talk) 04:14, 1 October 2018 (UTC))

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