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Reviewer: DMT biscuit (talk · contribs) 20:01, 9 April 2021 (UTC)Reply


For the sake of transparency: I am a fan of Breaking Bad. I have promoted an article relating to the show to GA status. DMT biscuit (talk) 20:01, 9 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Lead

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  • Considering the acronym Caltech isn't used again it should be removed.
  Done Removed.
  • The mention of the Schwartz seems unnecessary for the lead, again as they're not mentioned again, and are infrequent in the show.
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  • I don't understand the value or need of the cites in the leads.
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  • "Breaking Bad begins" - Cut this, as it may confuse the reader.
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  • "Local drug trade" - perhaps rephrased to the southwestern drug trade. In Say My Name, Mike mentions that Declan's crew operates in Phoenix, hardly local, hence why Mike mentioned it to quell Walt's worries. Case in point of the benefits of a fellow fan reviewing the article.
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  • Series creator Vince Gilligan has described his goal with Walter White as "turning Mr. Chips into Scarface" and deliberately made the character less sympathetic over the course of the series. Walt's evolution from a mild-mannered school teacher and family man into a dangerous drug lord and murderer is the show's central focus."

    Cut the second sentence, readers will understand that by this point of the article. Rephrase the first to: Walt becomes less sympathetic throughout the show, as Series creator Vince Gilligan wanted him to turn from "Mr. Chips into Scarface".
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  • The mention of Metástasis is too trivial for the lead—include it in legacy.
  Done Moved.

Concept and creation

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  • There seems to have been a misunderstanding of the concepts of protagonist and antagonist by applying adjacent moral standings. In spite of his moral descent, Walt remains the protagonists and Hank the antagonist--as he opposes Walt, eventually explicitly.
I also failed to find the cite supporting the claim - can you highlight what part does.
  Self-trout → My point regarding the cite still remains and you should perhaps use the later USA Today cite
  • "or as Gilligan had described in other ways" → "or as he said,"
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  • Start the section by saying: "Inspired by Tony Soprano, ..."
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  • "In contrast to his character, Cranston has been described as extremely playful on set, with Aaron Paul describing him as "a kid trapped in a man's body" - This seems trivial, and given the length of this section anything that can be cut should.
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  • "I'm going to miss the show when it's over, but on some level, it'll be a relief to not have Walt in my head anymore." - The quote is unnecessary, the preceding text already gets its message across.
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  • "He's going from being a protagonist to an antagonist. We want to make people question who they're pulling for, and why." - Unnecessary, per above.
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Character biography

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Background

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  • "Walter White was an only child. Walt's father died of Huntington's disease when he was six years old." → An only child, his father died of Huntington's disease when he was six years old.
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  • "He studied chemistry at the California Institute of Technology. After graduate school he worked as a researcher at Los Aamos National Laboratory, where he conducted research on proton radiography, that helped a team win a Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 1985." → He studied chemistry at the California Institute of Technology and, after graduate school, worked as a researcher at Los Aamos National Laboratory. There he conducted research on proton radiography, that helped a team win a Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 1985.
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Critical reception

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  • "By the end of the pilot episode the protagonist, Walter White, had murdered a man" - redundant.
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I'm quite unsure of the value of this section. It is, ostensibly, the prime example of bad popular culture sections; the SNL sketch is funny but is, perhaps, not encyclopedic. If you feel it's worthy then say and we'll decide from there.

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Review note

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@Some Dude From North Carolina: I've issued my initial—and likely only—comments. I'll be doing a source review and spotchecks, per the GA criteria. It's a very good article, well done. DMT biscuit (talk) 22:35, 12 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Some Dude From North Carolina: If you fix the below issues, the article will pass.

Source review

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I only noticed two problematic sources:

  • News Cult
  • ComingSoon.net

Below are two more reliable sources to use: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/superbowl-xlix-walter-white-returns-among-advert-extravaganza-10017104.html

https://time.com/5695599/breaking-bad-pizza-scene-evolution/

  Done Swapped in with this edit.

Spotchecks

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  • [11]: Verified
  • [25]: Verified
  • [46]: Failed verified; Trujilo wasn't mentioned in the article.
  • [12]: Verified
  • [4]: Verified
The Trujilo source has been replaced with this edit.
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