Talk:Wanderers Oval

Latest comment: 10 years ago by SuperJew in topic "Magic Park"

Seating capacity

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The grandstands have seating for 489 people
View of the field

There are clearly discrepancies in the seating capacity for this venue. Worldfootball.net claims capacity of 10,000, and this is being given greater weight than other sources that claim a capacity of only 1,000. Soccerway.com claims a capacity of only 1000, as does ultimatealeague.com.[1][2] Ultimatealeague.com specifically says "Wanderers Oval has a capacity of 1,000" and notes that the highest attendance there was 400% of capacity. I visited the site to take some photos. Unfortunately it was raining, but I did get a photo of the grandstands, in which can be counted 489 seats as follows:

  • Main grandstand (left of image) - 4 sections, 4 rows per section with capacities of 44, 40, 52 & 56 seats respectively. (192 total)
  • Secondary grandstand (just right of middle) - 3 sections, 5 rows per section with capacities of 63, 99 & 99 seats respectively. (257 total)
  • Exposed seating (right of image) - 3 sections, 2 rows per section with capacities of 14, 14 & 12 seats respectively. (40 total)

489 seats is more than a little shy of 10,000 and the only other seating is 5 seats under the shelter from which I took the photos and the benches that can be seen in the second image. The field is surrounded by grassed areas that are only as deep as can be seen in the second image (the trees to the back and right of the image are actually in the adjacent park. Given the physical space available, 10,000 seems to be a wild guess. --AussieLegend () 09:17, 1 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

Just adding that Ultimatealeague.com mentions a capacity of 4,000 specifically for that game (Newcastle Jets vs Western Sydney Wanderers, 2012-13 pre-season, 15 September 2012), while westsydneyfootball.com mentions attendance for same game as 3,000 [3]. both are over 1,000. and I can't seem to find any more sources on the internet...
and thanks AussieLegend for your hard work.
--SuperJew (talk) 11:12, 1 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
Combining the grandstand seating and the bench seating around the oval you'd probably make the 1,000 mark. The remainder would be all crammed into the grass areas. It's not a physically large area by any means. Try to go over 4,000 and the place would likely explode. --AussieLegend () 12:03, 1 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

"Magic Park"

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The claim that "Magic Park" is this oval's nickname is questionable. The citation in the article is from 2008 (that's six years ago) and the source seems to meet the criteria of a self-published source. The nickname seems to be something used only within Broadmeadow Magic football club. Ironically, the club's facebook page says "Broadmeadow Magic is a football team playing out of Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia. Established in 1966 as Newcastle Macedonia Football Club Inc. our home ground is Wanderers Oval, Broadmeadow." Of course the references on the page to "Magic Park" don't constitute reliable sources either. The club's website refers to both "Wanderers Oval" and the "Magic Park facility" but doesn't specify what the "facility" actually is. There is no signage at the park calling it "Magic Park". The only signs giving a hint to its name say "Newcastle Macedonia Football Club Inc". One of these can be seen in File:Wanderers Oval field.jpg. "Magic Park" doesn't seem to be widely used at all. I don't think I've ever seen it mentioned in local media. --AussieLegend () 20:22, 15 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

It was used in the latest Youth League match report by Football Federation Australia. --SuperJew (talk) 06:51, 16 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
People in Australia still use "kms" and "lts" instead of "m" and "l". It doesn't mean it's a valid use. In that article, it wasn't being used as a nickname. --AussieLegend () 07:34, 16 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
I'm sorry but I didn't understand your comment. What is wrong with using "kms"? Instead of "miles" you mean? Most of the world uses Kilometers instead of miles, only USA are weird... And I don't know what you mean by "lts" and "l".
What is it used as?
--SuperJew (talk) 07:38, 16 February 2014 (UTC)Reply