Talk:Wannabe

Cover

Unfortunately, the cover of "Wannabe" is the United States version, and if I'm going to be putting up all the Spice Girls singles, then we require the British versions. This is because the "Wannabe" U.S. version is the same as the "Say You'll Be There" UK version, but the "Say You'll Be There" American version is the same as the "Who Do You Think You Are" UK version, and since it didn't have an American release, the images will create one big jumble. So I'll be removing the image to replace the British version. I hope you understand the situation. DrippingInk 15:04, July 11, 2005 (UTC)

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Could someone disag Kings Cross in the article, as I have never seen the video (Shock! Horror!), or been to the location depicted in it. I only see that it needs to be disagged. Yours with wikileisure, Two Halves

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Unsourced

Editing out the bit about getting it back to number one. Karm Locke 18:27, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, I was beaten to the punch, the part now looks a bit more encyclopedic, but should really have a link to a source. Karm Locke 18:30, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

video

Apparently, there were two videos, then one got rejected. Geri Halliwell explains that a little bit in "If Only" if I remember well. The other video can be viewed on youtube I believe - or could at some point anyway. If anyone can find the reference in Geri's book I think that would be good - with the page, etc. Zigzig20s 06:15, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

GA Pass

• Well-written? Y
• Factually accurate and verifiable? Y (this was especially good actually)
• Broad in coverage? Y
• Neutral? Y
• Stable? Y
• Images? Y (see below)

• Overall: Y

Nice work all round. My one complaint would be that four CD covers in the infobox is too many to constitute fair use. My knowledge of fair use and how it's done on Wikipedia is not the best, but it's not unknown for this to be a sticking point in an article. Might be a good idea deciding on the one or two most important and removing the rest. Well done. Chwech 21:37, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

i dont bellieve

(Deleted because of spam)Sallyboy44 (talk) 22:24, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

...."the lyrics are a demand of sincerity"....

What does "the lyrics are a demand of sincerity" mean...? It's not even a coherent English sentence, as far as I can ascertain... In the broader sense, why is anyone wasting their time by attempting to "interpret" or "analyse" a Spice Girls song....? Surely, to sum it up as a "catchy but facile pop song" is enough.... 82.5.68.95 (talk) 02:35, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

BPM Corrected

Previous version of this entry listed the BPM of the song as 116. This is a bit too high. The actual BPM is more around 110.

98.154.49.39 (talk) 01:21, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

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Release date in infobox

The release date in the infobox is 26 June 1996, but the paragraph text says 8 July 1996. I've always thought that the July date is correct, and it has a source, but is there a reason why the infobox says differently? LadyGavGav (talk) 17:38, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

@LadyGavGav: From the "Chart performance" section: the single was first released in June 1996 in Japan/Southeast Asia, then released in the UK/Europe in July 1996, then released in the US in January 1997. Bennv123 (talk) 19:43, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Perhaps these different release dates in different major markets should be reflected in the infobox to avoid confusion. Bennv123 (talk) 19:48, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

"Feed Your Love" as a B-side in the infobox

The top/main infobox in this article is for the original "Wannabe" single, and the b-side for that single was "Bumper to Bumper". A new track/b-side "Feed Your Love" was released with the 2021 Wannabe 25 anniversary EP. Per Template:Infobox_song#B-side: "Generally, later releases or in secondary markets, reissues, etc., should only be included in the body of the article." (emphasis mine) Additionally, Wannabe 25 has its own section and infobox in the article, but as it is classified as an EP by reliable sources, Template:Infobox album does not include a "B-side" parameter. The Wannabe 25 section however can be expanded with more content on "Feed Your Love"/the EP etc. Bennv123 (talk) 07:30, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Title

Bennv123, why is the article's title in italics? QuestFour (talk) 22:03, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

@QuestFour: Fixed. Bennv123 (talk) 22:35, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 2 March 2023

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Consensus is that the Spice Girls song remains the primary topic; Uanfala's link to Wikinav is incredibly helpful in demonstrating this. (closed by non-admin page mover) Sceptre (talk) 18:26, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

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Wannabe → Wannabe (Spice Girls song) – I searched for the term "Wannabe" on Google or YouTube, but the very first result was the ITZY song and not the Spice Girls song. No WP:PRIMARYTOPIC here. RapMonstaXY (talk) 11:26, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose a standard Google search is not the best thing to use, especially when results can depend on where you are, a search for me listed the Spice Girls song first. -- AxG / ✉  12:12, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose. I also get mostly Spice Girls on the first page of a Google search. Pageviews back that up, too. Station1 (talk) 21:33, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
• Support Clear WP:NOPRIMARY situation, even if the Spice Girls song is the most popular. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 01:02, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
• Support by both criteria WP:NOPRIMARY, so should be a dab page. Wannabe (disambiguation) In ictu oculi (talk) 13:54, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose. The Spice Girls song gets more than 85% of the page views which, considering it's 27 years old compared with the recent ITZY song, is very strong evidence of a primary topic by common usage and by longterm significance.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:26, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

  Could the boosted page views not also be explained by the fact that, if you search for Wannabe while looking for, eg, Wannabe (Itzy song), you will be redirected to the Spice Girls song first? Popcornfud (talk) 16:59, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

  This sort of effect is possible, but generally does not seem to be a major factor. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:49, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose. Pageviews aside, the Itzy song went #1 in two countries, whereas the Spice Girls song went #1 in... 37. Clear advantage in long-term notability. 162 etc. (talk) 17:57, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose per other opposers Estar8806 (talk) 03:59, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
• Support. Wannabe (disambiguation) lists five exact matches. There is no case for the Spice Girls song being primary over all of these taken together. The only evidence seems to be the pageview statistics, which show what people found not what they were looking for. See the problem with page views. Andrewa (talk) 11:57, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

  Pageviews can be helpful as very rough indicators of both significance and usage. Yes, they show what people found not what they were looking for, but in this case, people looking for other topics with the name appear to be a small minority (only 0.6% of the visits to Wannabe resulted in a click for the hatnote link [1]). – Uanfala (talk) 13:47, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose The more recent song doesn't shake the foundation of the page name the way it's suggested here. --Killuminator (talk) 15:39, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose. All the evidence above points to the 1996 song as primary, with the only substantial contender is another with significantly lower popularity. – Uanfala (talk) 13:47, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

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