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GA Reassessment

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Kept--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 22:04, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Notified: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject District of Columbia, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Washington Metro, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Virginia, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Maryland, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rapid transit, SchuminWeb (talk · contribs), Golbez (talk · contribs), Mecaterpillar (talk · contribs), Epicadam (talk · contribs), Hgrosser (talk · contribs), Aude (talk · contribs), Adavidb (talk · contribs), Everything counts (talk · contribs)--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:06, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

I am reviewing this article for GA Sweeps.

• The article has several problematic refernce links

• Some of these have been cleaned up, but four remain.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:01, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Fixed except for the purplelinemd.com one that seems to be transient problem/flaky server. DMacks (talk) 09:11, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

• The images have lots of problems:

• Please expand the fair usage rational for File:Farecardfront.jpg

What is needed (other than to know how to spell "fare":): more detail of its non-replaceability in this context vs technical information about the image? DMacks (talk) 16:50, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

See WP:FURG.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 13:16, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I added more info, but I was mainly rambling. I repeat my request for specific guidance about what expansion is needed. DMacks (talk) 06:10, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Here is a pretty good one: File:Campbells Soup Cans MOMA reduced 80%.jpg.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:52, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

The FU rationale template appears to address all the standard FU rationale requrements. DMacks (talk) 07:12, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Given that this is the only FU image, we will consider this an addressed concern. I am not sure that this image is necessary, but for now it is O.K. as it is.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 02:32, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

• Please review WP:CAPTION#Wording

Overhauled them all, except for the safety and no-eating ones, as I suspect they violate FU and have invalid copyright tag too: I assume Metro posters are copyrighted by WMATA, so photos specifically of them can't be released under CC by a that photographer without clearance by WMATA. Further, these images are only decoration/incidental to article (not specifically discussed) so their inclusion is not within fair-use/non-free policy either. I'll ask around for confirmation (and welcome your thoughts too, Tony!), but will just remove them in a few days unless someone thinks they are 1) important to be here and 2) can clarify their copyright status. DMacks (talk) 09:33, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Please consider WP:NFCC.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 13:16, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Right. I'm saying I think their inclusion needs to be governed by that (rather than their given CC copyright tag, which I've since adjusted) and that their use here does not fall within fair-use guidelines. I've removed them from the article. DMacks (talk) 16:01, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

• Please attempt to add WP:ALT text

Did some (comments welcome if I'm on the right track (sorry:) ). Network getting flaky, so will continue tomorrow. DMacks (talk) 07:42, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

The alt text checker is down, so it will take me a bit.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 14:40, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

It looks O.K. to me so far.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 14:46, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Done, except for the Big M logo in the main infobox. I don't see any alt-text field for it. DMacks (talk) 17:34, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

According to the alt text checker about a half dozen remain undone.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 02:28, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

The alt text checker was lagged or caches pages or something like that. DMacks (talk) 15:31, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

In truth the alt text is too detailed in the sense that it assumes to much knowledge. I have lived in DC for two summers and if you showed me File:WMATA Metro Center crossvault 2009.jpg, I would not know it is "Metro Center". The average reader would not look at a picture and recognize a "Breda car" or any specific station unless the proper wording appears in the picture. Please see Wikipedia:Alternative_text_for_images#What_not_to_specify.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:17, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

The WP:ALT text looks fine except for the infobox. I have put in a request at WT:ALT to have that infobox jazzed up to accommodate WP:ALT text. Once this is done we can pass this article.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 17:40, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

The template now accommodates alt text. Please add text to the article.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:10, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I finished this up myself

• Please merge or expand the first paragraph in the Non-Metrorail projects section.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 20:23, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Merged into first paragraph. Not much more I can think to say for that intro, so may as well jump right into the first item. DMacks (talk) 06:03, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

• Isn't there a hatnote that can merge the two lines of hatnotes.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 20:29, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

I will monitor the progress of this review and review the article's quality rating after one week.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 20:25, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

There has been some progress on these concerns, but it is difficult to tell if it is a response or coincidental. I would appreciate some comment here about intent to resolve the remaining above. I will continue to monitor and reconsider the article in another week.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:08, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

For the record, I was drawn to this page and made edits specifically via the GAR flagging. DMacks (talk) 02:15, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. This GAR has been like pulling teeth. I have never had such an unresponsive group of active editors. Could you make your intent known with respect to the concerns above. If you do not intend to address them and want me to consider delisting the article let me know. If you are going to continue improving the article let me know.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:38, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Yikes:( Okay, I fixed the remaining deadlinks. I'll keep working on the other issues over next few days. DMacks (talk) 16:46, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Great!!!! Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 19:02, 28 July 2009 (UTC)