Talk:Waters Ave S.
Latest comment: 8 years ago by Andrewa in topic Requested move 08 August 2016
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Requested move 08 August 2016
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: moved to alternative proposal. Strong and I think valid consensus on this, but see closing comment regarding some of the arguments. Andrewa (talk) 08:26, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
Waters Ave S → Waters Ave. S. – The album's title includes the periods after "Ave" and after "S", as shown on the album's packaging. – Monasticism (talk) 02:01, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
- @Monasticism and Mandruss: This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:19, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
- I don't know what packaging is being referred to, but there is no period following "Ave" in the image of the album cover in the infobox. Not likely to be uncontroversial. ―Mandruss ☎ 03:24, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose - Styled as Waters Ave S. on nine out of nine pages on the label's website.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9] I note that the title of Track 13 is different, but that has nothing to do with the title of this article. I think a move to Waters Ave S. should be uncontroversial, but I oppose the move requested here. ―Mandruss ☎ 04:43, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose per Mandruss, the only period should be after S. Randy Kryn 14:14, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
- There is a period included after "Ave" and after "S". I don't know why it was moved back. You can check the packaging here and see the official digital releases such as here Monasticism (talk) 20:40, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
- It was moved back as a result of my inquiry after it was moved despite my challenge at WP:RM/TR. You can also check the packaging in this article's infobox, and you can check the nine out of nine pages on the label's own website, which I linked above. I don't how anything could be more authoritative than that, short of a notarized statement from the artist himself. Your second link is iTunes, and iTunes does not set official titles. They no doubt try to copy the official title, but they will make the occasional minor mistake, and that mistake does not change the official title. You might wish to contact iTunes and refer them to the label's website. ―Mandruss ☎ 19:45, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
- Okay, but that's not how iTunes works. Content and metadata on iTunes is provided by the music label. So, going by what you said, just move it to Waters Ave S. Monasticism (talk) 01:23, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
- Like I said, I think that move should be uncontroversial. When this RM closes, usually after 7 days, you can (1) submit a request for that move, or (2) move it yourself if you have the tool to do that (that would not be a move-over-redirect, and therefore not a technical move). According to Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions, you could save a few days by withdrawing this RM before the 7 days, if you can figure out on that page how to do that correctly. I've never done that. Best of luck. ―Mandruss ☎ 02:54, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
- Okay, but that's not how iTunes works. Content and metadata on iTunes is provided by the music label. So, going by what you said, just move it to Waters Ave S. Monasticism (talk) 01:23, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
- It was moved back as a result of my inquiry after it was moved despite my challenge at WP:RM/TR. You can also check the packaging in this article's infobox, and you can check the nine out of nine pages on the label's own website, which I linked above. I don't how anything could be more authoritative than that, short of a notarized statement from the artist himself. Your second link is iTunes, and iTunes does not set official titles. They no doubt try to copy the official title, but they will make the occasional minor mistake, and that mistake does not change the official title. You might wish to contact iTunes and refer them to the label's website. ―Mandruss ☎ 19:45, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
- Closing comment: Please note wp:official names, which explains why several arguments above are contrary to WP:AT. The case as a whole is I think strong despite this, but it would make it easier for closers if spurious arguments weren't included. TIA Andrewa (talk) 08:25, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.