Talk:Waylon Jennings/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Grandiose (talk · contribs) 12:13, 18 June 2012 (UTC) I'll be taking this review. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 12:13, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Opening comments

• Reference #13 needs some more details, I think. The passage Holly jokingly told Jennings... killing all on board. which it support seems rather, well, apocryphal, hence the need to have the source thrashed out a bit.

Agree. I added more citations to another book.--GDuwenTell me! 17:21, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

• Coverage seems good enough for GA, although I think there are areas where it could be considerably improved. The "legacy" section is devoid of the usual mentions of artistes who were influenced by the subject. There are also several mentions about much touring, which only appears to be briefly covered in the main biography part.

I could expand something about the artists he influenced. About the tours, it might not be too important unless there's a notable fact about one or several of them. Artists like him toured most of the year, so I try to focus on those ones that were important for his career, such as the Winter Dance Party, Lollapalooza. Maybe should I add something about the Dripping Springs Reunion?--GDuwenTell me! 17:21, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

• File:Waylon Jennings Promotional Picture cropped.JPG's licence doesn't quite make sense; one does not publish something under a public domain expired-type licence. Also it would be nice to have the details at File:Waylon Jennings Promotional Picture.jpg given to support its copyright status. Other images fine.

Well that's right, nobody does publish something in an expired PD license. The picture was published in 1965, and it is in PD because it does not meet the conditions given by the United States Copyright Office for works published between 1923-77. Anyway, I uploaded another version of the card to the commons that should prove that there was no copyright mark anywhere on the portrait. (File:Waylon Jennings Promotional picture for RCA Records.jpg) The small letters under RCA Victor say "The most trusted name in sound".--GDuwenTell me! 17:21, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

• Will review the copy later. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 12:23, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to review the article, the nomination has been open for a while now.--GDuwenTell me! 17:21, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Comments

• Prose generally good, could we link the radio stations in the lead and perhaps introduce them as such? To a non-US person, this four-letter radio station thing is a bit alien.

Done.--GDuwenTell me! 00:46, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

• "Country Song Roundup, issue 102" is not called that in the references?

I changed it to CSR staff.--GDuwenTell me! 00:46, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

• Ref #52 should mention allmusic.com I think.

Done.--GDuwenTell me! 00:46, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

• "Weatherby, Gregg" only appears as #83, is there a supporting full reference entry I've missed? Ditto "Laufenberg, Norbert" (#77) - which seems to be a vanity press and not an RS. (Oh, btw, the "&dq=Waylon+jennings+cocaine+diabetes" in the URL for that tells me what you searched for. It should be removed in other refs.) Ditto Reid, Jan (#33 and #34). Ditto Birk, Carl (#51 and #70). I assume there aren't supporting entries; there should be. You might want to cut down on the other materials given in the bibliography (or you could merely add to them).

I added Weatherby, Birk and Reid to the books and fixed the citations. I think that Laufenberg is reliable but I removed it anyway.--GDuwenTell me! 00:46, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

• Ref #62, you misread it: it says "Ritchie Valens". Can't be the author unless something very odd is going on.

I suppose that the news was tagged under Ritchie Valens, since there is not any author indicated, I removed the author field.--GDuwenTell me! 00:46, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

• Ref #42 should be "Lewis" to make it work.

Fixed.--GDuwenTell me! 00:46, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

• Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 20:21, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

All done, waiting for more.--GDuwenTell me! 00:46, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

• I missed "Manfield, Ken" in the category above. (Also, Ashby, LeRoy and Huang, Hao don't use the harv format of the others; clearly this is not a GA thing.)

That's all, though; the prose is slightly odd in places but is not wrong. If you wanted to take this further you'll need a lot more content, so it doesn't seem worthwhile tweaking all the prose to higher standards at this stage. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 10:48, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Well, I'm just aiming to GA only by now. I'll fix those refs.--GDuwenTell me! 15:09, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Done.--GDuwenTell me! 22:55, 19 June 2012 (UTC)