Talk:Weekly Shōnen Sunday

Currently Running List?

I was just wondering if maybe we could have a list of current series in Sunday. I assist in the management of the Weekly Shonen Jump page, where we put up a list of "currently running series" alongside the "classics". (though I like a bit more how that's handled in this setup). Maybe if we have a similar list for Sunday, it could be a guidance. Just leaving it up in the air for now... -StrangerAtaru 12:59, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

• Done. I also added a cover sample and a few more series to the list of things that have run in Sunday in the past.

-Harley Acres 3:23, 7 December 2006 (CST)

• • Was thinking now: do we really need the "current series" alongside the older series in the "series that have run in Sunday" section? Maybe to seperate it between the current series and the classic ones... -StrangerAtaru 02:05, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Ah, okay, I see what you're saying. Also, from what I can see, most of those series are ranked top to bottom going from most recently released to oldest, at least that's how I tried to add the ones I did. Just thought I would mention that in case any others were added. If anyone would like to add more, you can click the "What Links Here" link to see a few other series that haven't been added, and for those of us who speak Japanese, the Japanese Wiki on Shonen Sunday lists pretty much everything. HarleyAcres 05:44, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
      • Actually, my ultimate plan is to perhaps have a chronological listing of all these manga, both known and obscure. Most of my ambition I blame on this Japanese page, which shows all the works that appeared in Jump, when they premiered, when they ended and so on...well up to 2000 (such a shame since if they got to 2001, then they would have Bo-bobo and Bleach). It may be too trivial, but it might be cool for both Jump and Sunday...Magazine too, but I'm more clueless on that book. -StrangerAtaru 12:38, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
        • Wow, nice site. I actually visit a similar Sunday styled version to the link you posted. Unfortunately it doesn't have the nice graphics, but it's still very helpful. I don't think its trivial at all though, I find it all very interesting. The way I see it, while some of these series mean nothing to me, they're each special to someone out there. HarleyAcres 06:31, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
          • I noticed Cross Game isn't listed as currently running, but I'm fairly sure it is. Sunday's website lists it as such. Does anyone know differently? I know Adachi's prone to missing deadlines occasionally. HarleyAcres 00:21, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
            • That was a mistake. I thought someone already had it there when I straigthened it out, but I put it there now. (then again, on the site I check out, its one of the few Sunday series that consistently gets a raw released, as are Major, Kekkaishi, Gash, Yakitate and AiCola. I would love if someone did Zettai Karen since I did once read GS Mikami, but oh well if its not. -StrangerAtaru 03:15, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Firefighter Daigo

This series is currently being translated by Viz (and has been for a few years), so I was sort of surprised that there isn't a page for it already. If there are any fans out there it might be a good one to tackle. I've heard that the manga is excellent. HarleyAcres 23:37, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

New Titles

Titles like "Marin Hunter" are supposed to be named as; Marine Hunter, not Marin Hunter. Zeta26 18:15, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

• When the series started (which is the only time it was done), I used the transliteration of the name. I get that its "Marine Hunter", but until somehow could better define the name, I kept it the more literal "Marin Hunter". -StrangerAtaru 13:33, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Dude, it was never "Marin Hunter" to begin with. Take a closer look at the wallpaper and the link's extention on Shonen Sunday's site it even says "Marine Hunter" on the picture, which the link for the site is "Marine". If it was in the anime rendition. It'd be something like; "Marine Hunta" (japanese version) -Zeta26 23:46, 24 September 2007 (UTC).

Added Tons of Old Stuff

I just bought a couple of old Shonen Sundays and stuck up all the series that were running at the time (1989), so there should be a lot of new old series listed now. Too bad a lot of them don't have entries, though there is info to be had if you google the artists/series, for those that might be interested in writing some new pages. HarleyAcres 21:33, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Saikyo Baseball Title

Hi =). I was wondering if you guys know the full title to this baseball title > http://www.websunday.net/rensai/set_saikyo.html. Because all I could come up with is Saikyo, and the Google searches point out to HSD Kenichi, otherwise known as Shijo Saikyo no Deshi Kenichi (the martial arts manga). Zeta26 11:39, 29 September 2007 (UTC).

• Sure, it's called "Saikyou! Toritsu Aoizaka Koukou Yakyuubu" which translates as "Strongest! Metropolitan Aoizaka High School Baseball Club". It's by Motoyuki Tanaka, and debuted in Shonen Sunday 2005 Vol. 6. His other works (all in Sunday) include Libero Revolution (a volleyball manga) and "Ootori Bonbaa". HarleyAcres 20:12, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Adding More Manga/Mangaka

I've been adding more artists and series to this page, and then going back in and writing profiles for the various authors and their series. If anyone would like to pitch in and write some, it would be much appreciated. I'm trying to do some of the more obscure ones that people may not know, so that others can pitch in and do some of the more familiar titles like DAN DOH, B.B., Makoto-chan, Orochi: Blood, and just about any of the currently running series.

The series creators are also pretty easy to do if anyone would like to research them.HarleyAcres 07:14, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

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Yoshio Surugu?

Can someone help me with this? An anonymous user added him, and while I deeply appreciate the addition, I just wanted to verify it myself. In doing so I could find no reference to a Surugu or any of his works. Any help in verifing his existance would be appreciated.HarleyAcres (talk) 00:10, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Organizing a "History of Sunday"

I've been working on a couple projects over on the Weekly Shonen Jump page, particularly in the creation and maintenance of a master list of every significant series to ever be published in the magazine. Basically, the list shows every single series that had lasted a year or longer in the magazine outside special exceptions, including knowledge and publication in the United States, connection between series due to characters or sequels, or having a Wiki page currently even though its completely short and has no real US exposure. While something similar does seem to be forming on the Sunday page, mostly its just a list of a bunch of authors and sometimes every single series that they ever did, even those that lasted a year. (something I rather just keep to an author page) Does anyone think we could probably have a list similar to what we're doing for WSJ, perhaps on a seperate page? We could even use the Japanese Wiki if we need assistance and they have it. -StrangerAtaru (talk) 21:46, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, I worry that creating a seperate article would pretty much canniblize this one. Most of the content here that I've added has been the author/series stuff. While I certainly don't mind it being presented in a similar format to what you've done on Jump, my main worry is that this Shonen Sunday proper article would not have much left if this were moved off of it, and no one seems to be stepping up to add more historical info on the magazine (I've added pretty much all I can in that area).

I wouldn't mind it, but I would hate to delete the work I've already put into this. I suppose basically what I'm saying is that I don't feel it's my place to say what's noteworthy or worth mentioning in terms of the series shown, so I tend to mention everything and let the user decide what they're interested in (Which is what they do on the Japanese wiki). I mean, I don't list short stories, but if it's a serial then I list it.

If we do decide to do this, then one thing I would like to see added that isn't on the Jump page is the author listed with their series. My reasoning is that some of the authors listed on the Sunday page now don't have any articles on their series written, (Katsu Aki, Kiyokazu Chiba, Hidenori Hara, Mitsuo Hashimoto, Osamu Ishiwata, etc, etc), but have profiles written on them. Basically if that can be done, then I have no objections. It would be something simple like saying:

1987

Ranma ½ (1987-1996) by Rumiko Takahashi

Kamen Rider Black (1987-1988) by Shotaro Ishinomori

or alternatively (like they do it on the Sunday Japanese Wiki)

1987

Ranma ½ (Rumiko Takahashi) 1987-1996

Kamen Rider Black (Shotaro Ishinomori) 1987-1988

If you want to do something like that, I'm completely fine with it. Personally I don't see a need to list all the detailed stuff that is on the Jump page regarding overseas serialization, as that tends to make a few things look a little cluttered, and it's usually covered in the series article (things like Ginga: Nagareboshi Gin's entry, and Fist of the Northstar looks a little over done to me on the List of series run in Weekly Shonen Jump article.

So just let me know what you think re:

1) What happens to the main SS article when this stuff is removed.

2) Adding authors to the list

If those can be addressed then I can get behind it, I think.

HarleyAcres (talk) 00:41, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't usually add the authors because usually my hope is that a lot of the manga will get pages and thus lead the Wiki readers to find information on the author and any other work connected to them. However, at the same time it could eventually leading to us writing every single series the author ever made, which would probably lead to even more confusion since we would be listing a bunch of series that went nowhere and not what pretty much every series ever. (which I think is a complete waste of time since many, many series, even ones by noted authors, go nowhere and die within ten-twenty weeks anyway) My policy is such: if the series has an article, then we list it, particularly if its short. If not, then just leave it to looking on the page for the author. (for example: one of the mangaka I've been working an article on for a while now is Takeshi Okano, artist for Hell Teacher Nube. My idea is that perhaps if someone goes to the Nube page, they would go to check out the Okano article from that page and see he created several other series, which in his case include shorter stuff like AT Lady!!, Tsurikkies Pintaro and Magician². However, since those series barely lasted too long in Jump itself and don't have a Wiki page at this moment, I don't really see the point in listing them on the master list unless an article is made)

In regards to the information section, mostly I try to contextualize things...but my partner, a guy by the name "Jump Guru", may have gone too far with it. Basically, while many Jump series have exposure in America, I want to sort of have context in how if not published here. (for example, Kinnikuman is more known for the M.U.S.C.L.E. toys in the U.S. prior to the release of the manga Ultimate Muscle, also known as Kinnikuman Nisei). Initially that section was going to be basic: when the series lasted, if it was published by Viz/Jump or in another means, whether it had an anime (OK, that's new and based off something I saw off the Japanese Wiki's page for Sunday) and giving slight context. However, Jump Guru seems to want to list every little nook and cranny in regards to that, including alternate names, special publication means, long name versions etc. I've tried to calm down and control some of it but he does seem rampant. (heck, we're currently arguing on whether COBRA should be called as its manga name or by "Space Adventure Cobra" like the anime...and even though COBRA seems to be the main name on the Japanese Wiki, he seems to want to do it his way).

As for the author context on that page, I sort of like that idea. Believe it or not, I found an author article for someone who currently has no Wiki pages for his work yet just for himself and does have a couple successful Jump series (that would be Hisashi Eguchi, author of Susume!! Pirates and Stop!! Hibari-kun!, neither of which have a page currently) I need to figure out if we need to get rid of anything to help that out but I could try to at least get that up. That could eventually help some of these lesser known authors eventually get articles and, likewise, the same for their series both in Jump and elsewhere. -StrangerAtaru (talk) 01:21, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry if I get too exact, sometimes I just get so in too all the obscure stuff that I forget all about the people who are going to be going "Huh?" when they go to the page. I always want to get your opinion when I do stuff like that. I have always hated argueing. Jump Guru (talk) 02:45, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Cool, well, as long as the authors can be mentioned with their series, which you seem to agree with, then I'm all for doing this.HarleyAcres (talk) 19:19, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Just so you know as well as you're not a reader of Jump i'm not a reader of Shonen Sunday, but I should check out other manga from WSS. The only manga I have read from it are InuYasha and Ranma½ which i'm not to big a fan of. I have also read a part of Crying Freeman which is a manga from Big Comic, it was okay. Jump Guru (talk) 03:13, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I need to finish something in the real world so I can devote time doing the research on the Sunday page in Japan but I'm go after that. As for content on the main page, all we can really do is talk about the history of the magazine, how its known for the Rumiko Takahashi series and how it recently had series over 10 years and any other crucial facts as well as the "current list". Though I have one thought: considering that we on the Jump page bold certain "long-running or well published series", is there any sort of series in Sunday that probably would have that? (though I know stuff like Conan, IY and Major would get bolded immediately for the ten-year mark). -StrangerAtaru (talk) 20:22, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

No problem. I'm going to go ahead and convert over what's already on here to the new page. That'll probably take me most of the afternoon. As for bolding stuff, anything by Takahashi and Adachi goes without saying. There are some other artists that have a major series, but then never attain that level again, so it's hit and miss. But no doubt everything by Takahashi and Adachi since they're the cornerstones of Sunday.HarleyAcres (talk) 22:44, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm trying to find a list of 100 million seller manga for Sunday (sort of like for Jump where we know of that number for a few series like Slam Dunk, Dragonball, KochiKame and One Piece), but its extremely hard. In particular the works of Takahashi are sort of tough to figure out which sold 100 million and which didn't. Inu Yasha automatically gets a bold for ten years. But with Ranma and UY its harder: I believe at least one made the number if not both, but its really tough to figure out. As for Adachi...I can't say since I don't know his works as well. -StrangerAtaru (talk) 23:22, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure you'll find that sort of specific information on many Sunday works. There's significantly less interest on the numbers game of Sunday than Jump since Sunday's behind both Jump and Magazine in sales nowadays. I'm well versed in Takahashi though. She passed 100 million -total- sold (of all her works) with Ranma ½ vol. 34 in 1995. It's hard to estimate it by series though. Touch is easily Adachi's biggest seller I would imagine, but again, it's difficult to know specifics in terms of sales. I bolded the "significant" series, but that's subjective on my part. The more recent things (MAR, Kekkaishi, Dan Doh) are difficult for me to put in terms of significance. They were the "attractions" no doubt, but not at the level of Detective Conan or Inuyasha or what have you. It's difficult to gauge. HarleyAcres (talk) 10:22, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

I guess you are right. Compared to the massiveness of Jump and Magazine, Sunday is always trying to find its own beat. And while a bunch of series have their own importance to where they stand, Takahashi and Adachi are two that seem the best to identified as such. Probably if one series currently could be seen as "important to Sunday", my guess would be Hayate: with it tapping into the moe culture that's been sweeping Japan as of late while trying to remain its own work, it seems to have more notice compared to most of the Sunday series outside IY, Conan, Major and the now-ending Gash. Another possible one could be Midori no Hibi: although a shorter series, it does seem to be really out there compared to many stuff and even seemed to be connected to the Wiki for a time with Midori as a mascot.

BTW: I see a lot of really short series (less than a year) on the Sunday list. Is it really that necessary to have all those series on there unless they have Wiki articles? (its starting to make me doubt my own Jump list since we leave so many off since its not worth it) -StrangerAtaru (talk) 02:45, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

^2 Harley is right, its hard to weight or measure them against each other, but its not just because of the mangas sold etc, its also "based / or should be based on" popularity outside japan, for example, in my country (Argentina), when we first aired Ranma 1/2 it was all the rage, it wasnt as big as say DBZ, but it was very close, about the same as Samurai X, yes in here Ranma 1/2 sold as much as Samurai X, and Samurai X here was just as aclaimed as anywere else. So it varies from person to person not just by personal opinion, but its also perceived differently by how well received it is in different countries. Its not like we are going to start with fanboyism but its hard to make an article without a huge source of information, its also small trivia like that (trivia about being aclaimed better on other countries) that makes a page more interesting, but like i said, sources, sources, sources. 190.18.163.109 (talk) 19:14, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Gash Bell Ending?

I noticed that Gash Bell (Zatch Bell) had been taking off the currently running manga list, and some mention of the next (December 26th) issue being its final chapter. I know the series is very close to ending, but I haven't heard that that will be its final appearance in the magazine. The Shonen Sunday official website has no mention of it either. Maybe the gun was jumped a bit on taking it off the "current" list? Dylan Acres (talk) 10:29, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

• It was announced in the current chapter that next issue (the New Years one) is the series finale. Sort of moved it off since it was revealed pretty much. -StrangerAtaru (talk) 23:05, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

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Magazine name

The article is Shōnen Sunday but the lead says Weekly Shōnen Sunday. Which is the official name? —Quasirandom (talk) 21:01, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Official U.S Site: Open for Business

Along with websunday. Viz also opened the U.S site of Shonen Sunday. Which they now have Arata: The Legend. You can view the site U.S Shonen Sunday Zeta Nova 14:45, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Changing the profile picture into first magazine cover

Hi everyone. I request for a change in the profile picture into the first magazine cover, just like Weekly Shonen Jump and Weekly Shonen Magazine. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.1.220.13 (talk) 16:37, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Release Day: Tuesday or Wednesday?

The current version of the article notes that Weekly Shonen Sunday was originally published on Tuesdays, switching to a Wednesday release in 2011. However, the Case Closed manga published in Weekly Shonen Sunday is stated to have had its first chapter released on January 5th, 1994 - which is a Wednesday. This release date is backed up by a Shogakukan press release celebrating the 30th anniversary of that manga that also names January 5th (https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000002444.000013640.html). The press release thus suggests that any change in release day must have happened prior to 1994. Unfortunately there is no citation for the claim made in the article that the switch from a Tuesday to a Wednesday release happened in 2011. Can anyone confirm the dates here? 2003:CB:2728:4C01:2DE0:8639:484C:E56C (talk) 22:48, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

I found an archived URL from 2007 explicitly stating that the magazine (at that time) was also published on Wednesday. I don't know where the claim that the schedule changed in 2011 came from, so I reworded the sentence. On that note, sadly, the article contains lots of WP:ORIGINAL content, with claims that, previously, I tried to fix and back up with sources, but my search was fruitless. Xexerss (talk) 06:13, 31 March 2024 (UTC)