Talk:Wegener–Bergeron–Findeisen process

Latest comment: 12 years ago by Vortmax in topic Ice multiplication ?

Ice multiplication ?

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I think this article is too broad in scope. The topics of ice formation and multiplication are not confined to just the WFB process and I think need to be moved to their own article. There is plenty of material on the WBF process itself that can be expanded upon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vortmax (talkcontribs) 17:40, 11 February 2012 (UTC)Reply


Who are Vlade and Krenar??

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The article mentions that Vlade and Krenar helped with this investigation. Can anyone tell me who they are? Jackins (talk) 13:31, 1 April 2008 (UTC) No Idea. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.139.204.107 (talk) 20:36, 24 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

Saturation vapor pressure varies from the perspective of ice particles or that of supercooled water droplets

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This article leaves out an explanation of how saturation vapor pressure varies from the perspective of ice particles or that of supercooled water droplets which is important, and without which makes its statement on this issue nonsensical. Furthermore, to find this information explained well is difficult to research. Other research sources do not explain this articles' statement that "The saturation vapor pressure over water is greater than the saturation vapor pressure over ice (at the same temperature) creating a subsaturated environment for liquid water but a supersaturated environment for ice", including this article itself. However, a good explanation of this phenomenon was found in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_physics#Bergeron_process, "Bergeron process".

Another issue is that there is no reference made in this article to the good explanation of the Bergeron process of the above Cloud Physics Wiki article even though the Cloud Physics article references this article. In addition there is the issue that the math symbols for vapor pressure (e), vapor pressure, saturated (es), etc. are not defined. This makes reading the article difficult when you do not understand what is being discussed.

Furthermore the same statement in this article as mentioned above, "The saturation vapor pressure over water is greater than the saturation vapor pressure over ice (at the same temperature) creating a subsaturated environment for liquid water but a supersaturated environment for ice" does not make sense without an explanation that the above Cloud Physics Wiki article provides. This above statement is silly without an explanation because it basically says that the "The saturation vapor pressure over water is greater . . .", but at the same time says there is a "subsaturated environment for the liquid water". This has the contradiction of a "saturated environment" for water and a "subsaturated environment" for the same water concurrently in the same sentence without any explanation. This absurd contradiction without explanation pattern is repeated in the same above statement again when it basically says, "saturation vapor pressure over ice" is low, “but [there is] "a supersaturated environment for ice". This statement only makes sense if you already know this topic which this article will not teach you about, so it needs a good explanation like the above Cloud Physics article provides.