Talk:Wesley Bell

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Wesley Bell is an American attorney and formerly a member of the city council of Ferguson, Missouri. He is currently the prosecuting attorney for St. Louis County, Missouri, defeating the long-time incumbent Bob McCulloch in the 2018 Democratic primary election for that position. Bell became the first black county prosecuting attorney in the county's history when he took office in January 2019.

Photograph credit: Jamelle Bouie; edited by Bammesk

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The content of this article has become way more biased

Obviously there's a pretty contentious primary going on right now between Wesley Bell and Cori Bush, and I think that's seeped into this article. There's been a lot of people adding facts and framing them in negative ways that make this seem more like a Cori Bush stump speech, and I say that as someone who strongly supported Cori in 2020 and 2022 and is undecided right now. I.e "Despite Byrne's conservative platform and strong opposition to abortion, Bell is said to have run the campaign as a friendly favor," "Critics have said that many significant donors... tend to support Republican causes." These facts are true, but presented in a not so neutral point of view. I don't know if it's possible to add protection to the article but we should at least discuss this. Jonaththejonath (talk) 21:53, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

• Jonaththejonath, I don't think protection is going to do much. There were a few throwaway accounts (I counted four of them) who were putting spins on the article (the history will show you who they were), but that was a few years ago. An IP showed up recently (they just did--and then realized what they did), but there's not a lot of obvious disruption, and no one at RFPP is going to protect it, I think. I wouldn't.
  I do agree that there was a severe negative spin in the thing as a whole, but I disagree with the reason for User:JohnAdams1800's tag from a while ago. I also think your tag is a bit premature when you could simply go in and edit it for neutrality. Speaking of which, you mentioned two things. I agree that the first one is not neutral, and that was the exact kind of tone that I found, and I made a slew of edits to neutralize it. The second, meh--"critics have said" may be a bit weaselish but, as you said, it's not untrue. So rather than tagging and discussing, why don't you just go in and edit? That's the beauty of Wikipedia. The sooner we can get rid of that tag, the better. Drmies (talk) 23:22, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

In addition to negatives, we need to include positives so it is not a political ad for just one candidate

I've seen a lot of edits included about some controversial moments in Bell's career and donations. The recent poll and St. Louis Dispatch endorsement should be included so the article is not an ad for one candidate. I saw too much negatively in the content. I will not erase that either, because like I stated, it needs to not be one-sided. I feel the previous page was also not NPOV modeled either.Speakfor23 (talk) 20:43, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Then add something positive about himself instead, polling should not belong to the biography page and it is an internal poll which is biased source so addling it violates BLP policy. 47.218.111.38 (talk) 20:45, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Despite the background of Mark Mellman, you don't really know if the poll is biased. There is also the St. Louis Dispatch endorsement. I didn't shy away from the fact that the newspaper also criticized. Why the article can include negatives, it's got to include positives too. That's what a neutral point of view is.Speakfor23 (talk) 20:50, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

It is conducted for DMFI who endorsed Bell in the race, and as to the dispatch endosement of one race, it still sould belong to the page of that race. Ultimate standard: if something no more matter if he suddenly drops out from the election, then it should belong to the election page. Only something about himself that is notable regardless of his run should belong to the biography page. 47.218.111.38 (talk) 20:56, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

@Speakfor23 accept the latest compromise 47.218.111.38 (talk) 21:18, 30 July 2024 (UTC)