Talk:West Chester University

Wiki Education assignment: Media and Culture Theory - MDC 254

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 29 August 2023 and 15 December 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Whitney337 (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Mosbug1 (talk) 02:23, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

October 2024 Editorial dispute

It appears that there is an editorial dispute regarding whether to list Michael Hollocks in the Notable alumni page. The first relevant edit was here, User:Discospinster left the edit summary "no article found", which was reverted by me here as "undue removal." I was in the middle of adding another RS article to ensure that it wouldn't be removed, but it was quickly reverted again here. Discospinster left the same edit summary, but added WP:Write the article first.

After that, I attempted to seek a compromise and have a discussion with Discospinster on their talk page here which I will copy and paste below:

Re: Michael Horrocks on West Chester University notable people. WP:WTAF refers to redlinks, not to lists of notable people. According to WP:EXEMPT1E, If the person is famous for a specific event, the notability requirement need not be met. If a person in a list does not have a Wikipedia article about them, a citation (or link to another article) must be provided". Two such links were provided, United Airlines flight 175 and September 11, 2001.

Finally, WP:BLP1E says We generally should avoid having an article (WTAF) on a person when...Reliable sources cover the person only in the context of a single event [and]....The person otherwise remains, and is likely to remain, a low-profile individual. Please self revert. Thank you. Kire1975 (talk) 15:19, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Exactly, the individual must be "famous" for a specific event. Michael Horrocks is not "famous". ... discospinster _talk 15:24, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

The person's membership in the list's group is established by reliable sources. Kire1975 (talk) 15:59, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Reliable sources: Here, here, here, here, here, and here. I was in the middle of adding this one but there was an edit conflict because you reverted the reversion so fast. Please self-revert. Thank you. Kire1975 (talk) 16:12, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

I do not agree that the entry belongs in the list. ... discospinster _talk 16:14, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

What don't you agree with? Kire1975 (talk) 16:18, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

That he is generally "famous". ... discospinster _talk 16:26, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

This source, hosted by the Association of Flight Attendants-CWA was already on the page. Kire1975 (talk) 16:16, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

The last two comments by Discospinster indicated their unwillingness to self-revert because they think that Michael Hollocks needs to be "famous" to be mentioned on the list. I was going to point out that the person doesn't need to be famous according to WP:PEOPLELIST. The language I used in my comment, that "The person's membership in the list's group is established by reliable sources" comes from there. But as this dispute appears to be getting contentious I decided to try to solicit an outside opinion on the Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard and it appears that they want to know Has this issue been discussed extensively on the article talk page? So I'm asking for all further discussion in this matter to be posted on the article talk page here. 16:43, 8 October 2024 (UTC)