Talk:West Friesland

Query about name

I would like to see academic proof that the States of Holland and West Friesland were called this way, before it gets reinstated, on this disambuigation, because currently the States of Holland article does not mention West Fries land. --C mon 19:20, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

That is not my fault or the fault of the fact, just read the dutch version of the States of Holland and Westfriesland, nl:staten van Holland en West-Friesland, and see also the links that a had given on the historical region page.. Dolfy 19:30, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Please discuss a contentious change on the talk page before making it. You wrote most the nl:staten van Holland en West-Friesland, so that's not convincing at all. -- C mon 19:38, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh jee, it was stupid just to write anything. ps: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5] All dutch, such as First chamber (Eerste kamer) ... (and if you read good you can see that there are two departments, the state of Holland and the state of Westfriesland, together they form the state of Holland and Westfriesland, and later on also the province..) Dolfy

I'm sorry my previous edit appeared as a personal attack, it was not intended that way, as on other pages, I am merely asking for sources on the existence of West Friesland as a separate state.

The sources you gave are not the sources wikipedia policy prescribes. You appear to be violating WP:NOR: these are not academic sources that proof the existence of West-Friesland as a separate dutch state, but material proof that it exists. Although convincing, this is not what wikipedia's rules prescribe as evidence. I would furthermore like to point your attention to WP:3RR and WP:CIVIL.

Just point me to an academic source, an academic historic journal or a handbook on Dutch history to prove your case. Furthermore other wikipedias are no prove of the existence, especially if the writer in question wrote the article himself. I'm not saying that you should not write anything, I'm merely pointing you to wikipedia policy that says: cite your sources. -- C mon 20:06, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

If you call sources as national archives and the archive of the dutch parlement not good a nuff sources what's left then? Some more links than: Nationaal Archief Nationaal Archief on VOC Public Education televison (Teleac (omroep) antiek books antiek books waterlandsarchief Rulers.org , Investigaton of finance of the state Holland and Westfriesland Erasmus Universiteit Rotterdam, Stichting de Ruyter Dutch recearch database (NOD) list can go and on if you want.. Dolfy 21:04, 24 June 2006 (UTC) ps, thanks for the apologie, it felt indeed a bit like personal attack.

http://dutchrevolt.leidenuniv.nl/nederlands/begrippen/staatsinstellingen/republiek%2009%20holland.htm ? --MWAK 17:31, 14 August 2006 (UTC)