Talk:Whataya Want from Me

Naming conventions

Please refer to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (capitalization), Wikipedia:Naming conventions (music) & especially Wikipedia:Naming conventions for the title of this article. For article titles we follow these conventions - regardless of what the "common" capitalization may be; variations such as irregular capitalizations are put in the article itself. The word from here is a coordinating conjunction and therefore the article title is f/lower cap. Skier Dude (talk) 05:50, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

• Naming conventions don't trump reliable sources, sorry. And, unless you're planning on changing anyone lived in a pretty how town sometime soon, you're just completely and totally wrong here. UnitAnode 06:05, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Whataya Want from Me

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The result of the move request was: moved. Stifle (talk) 11:04, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

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Whataya Want From Me → Whataya Want from Me — Relisted. Ucucha 18:29, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Moving discussion from my talk page to more appropriate venue:

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"Whataya Want from Me" is a non-standard spelling, and -- in lieu of discussing your view -- you abuse your deletion tool to enforce a non-standard spelling? Seriously? UnitAnode 05:28, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

• And do not label in "uncontroversial" in the edit summary, when it's not. UnitAnode 05:30, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
• Here is just one example. UnitAnode 05:33, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
• And another example. UnitAnode 05:36, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
• One last example for you. I'd strongly advise you to never use your administrative tools to undo a legitimate move again. UnitAnode 05:37, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

You may want to carefully read Wikipedia:Naming conventions (capitalization), Wikipedia:Naming conventions (music) & especially Wikipedia:Naming conventions before making unfounded accusations. For article titles we follow these conventions - regardless of what the "common" capitalization may be; variations such as irregular capitalizations are put in the article itself. The word from here is a coordinating conjunction and therefore the article title is f/lower cap. Skier Dude (talk) 05:47, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

P.s. - "move war" (your edit summary)?? 2 editors, Aspects & I, have followed the clear conventions to move this to the correct title - so, where's the war? Skier Dude (talk) 05:55, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

So, we don't do reliable sources anymore? UnitAnode 06:02, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

For an example of how MOS doesn't trump RS, see anyone lived in a pretty how town. UnitAnode 06:03, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

For article titles, no; for the contents of the article, yes. The article titles reflect standard/proper English, while the article contents give the variations... Your example is one that needs to be corrected... I can trump that and give hundreds: User:Skier Dude/My Sandbox/bad albums. Also, you may note that WP:RS discusses article content and the theme/issue of titles isn't mentioned. Skier Dude (talk) 06:13, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

You'd better go change the titles of all cummings' poems then. As for RS, I am talking about what the sources label the song as, and that overrides MOS concerns in totality. The sources clearly capitalize the "f", just as the sources don't capitalize the title of cummings' poems. Sorry, but MOS and your opinion don't override what the sources say. UnitAnode 06:16, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

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• Support: Per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (music) and the fact that for the majority of the time this article has existed at Whataya Want from Me. Aspects (talk) 07:28, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose. Does what the song is actually titled not matter at all? Project naming conventions don't override what the reliable sources call the song. And all of the capitalize the "F." Unless we're going to retitle cummings' works, k.d. lang's name, etc., you simply have to go with the reliable sources as to how we title our articles. UnitAnode 14:25, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
• Support This is clearly covered in WP:CAPS and WP:MUSTARD. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:42, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
• Support: Per Style guidelines. We use reliable sources for information, not for how that information is stylistically presented. If you were to use RS that way, then you could argue that this title must be rendered in a 10-point serif font, a la most print sources. -- Yano (talk) 22:59, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

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Another disruptive move

Clearly, we're relying more on style guidelines than actual policy. I'm now forced to "fix" the titles of all Cummings poems to fit these MOS guidelines. If we're going to follow them over what the sources say in little articles like this one, the big ones need "fixed" as well. UnitAnode 15:09, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Release on P!nk's Greatest Hits - notable?

I added it, and a link to the album, into the first paragraph, because I think the fact the song is included on P!nk's greatest hits album, as a consequence of Lambert's success with the song, is notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.172.97.94 (talk) 18:57, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

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