Talk:Wheel truing stand

Howard Hawkins patented several truing stands

I have reverted insertion of a link to the Howard Hawkins article from the see also section twice for these reasons:

1. There is no mention of truing stands in the Howard Hawkins article, sourced or not.
2. There is no source listed in this article that mentions Howard Hawkins.

Therefore, continue insertion of links to the Howard Hawkins article is link spam at best, and more-likely persistent vandalism. -AndrewDressel (talk) 03:26, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Oh, vandalism! AndrewDressel I now see why you are so mad and martial ! You are from the east coast and the only Howard Hawkins you know is actually politician Howie Hawkins! I refer to the Midwestern version, and yes as soon as you'll read his page you'll see ( if you are truly a bicyclist, and not a motorbiker as the cute box on your user page suggests) the man is the founder of Park Tool. so hold your breath. I ll insert the C. No spam link. Peace to you Mr Dressel. --Wuerzele (talk) 07:01, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Let's see...

1. The link you inserted in this edit is to Howard Hawkins, "an American politician and activist with the Green Party of the United States."
2. I checked the link you inserted, and even though I reside in Milwaukee, as my user page indicates, and ride a bicycle to work every day, I did not find any indication that the linked article mentioned truing stands, so I removed it with the edit summary "No mention of truing stand in linked article."
3. You reinserted the link with this edit to an article about "an American politician" without addressing the issue of there being no mention of truing stands that article. Your edit summary simply asserted that it was "sourced" material,
4. I once again checked all the sources provide in the article, read the linked article, and found no mention of a connection between truing stands and the subject of the linked article. I even checked your user page, but I found no mention of bicycles or cycling, so I removed it again with the edit summary "No source provided. No mention of truing stand in linked article. Stop adding link spam."
5. I came to this talk page and itemized the reasons for removing the link.
6. You went to my talk page, accused me of edit warring, and began making personal attacks:

a. I display idiotic hubris by having some little box on my user page.

b. I display unsourced and maybe outdated claims on my user page. Simply following the provided link would lead you to the list which indicates that I have made 14,489 and which lists me as the 4628th active editor.

c. I "shot from the hip" when I did no such thing.

7. You came to this talk page and began making more, uninformed personal attacks:

a. I don't ride the right type of bike to edit this article correctly.

b. I don't live in the right location to edit this article correctly.

8. You finally discovered your mistake and inserted a link to the correct article with this edit and falsely suggested that you were reverting my edit with the edit summary "Undid revision 645844543 by AndrewDressel".

Obviously there is no reason to revert your third attempt to insert the correct link, because you finally inserted the correct link. If you had instead, continued to insert the incorrect link, I believe that my previous assessment would have been correct. It would have been spam at best, and more-likely persistent vandalism. I stand by every edit I make, and I sign my real name. -AndrewDressel (talk) 12:16, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Nice article about Howard C. Hawkins, by the way. -AndrewDressel (talk) 13:56, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Bytes added as of 6/9/21

Before editing Wheel Truing Stand I noticed it could use some more information. I added all the information I could remember since from working at a bike shop. This is an assignment for an English class which is requiring me to add 2500 bytes of information.

I feel like the tools added were necessary because spoke wrenches aren't the only thing that is used when truing a wheel

I also feel like I needed to add types of wheel trues because it is knowledgeable information when truing a wheel completely.

Hopefully the information I added is helpful if you want to change or delete anything go ahead. (User BortellDylan)

Difference between drive and brake sides

This quote in the article cought my attention:

"All wheels are measured by KGF or Kilogram - force. For rear wheel truing the rear wheel is going to have tighter spoke on the drive side while when truing front wheels the brake side spokes are going to be tighter than the drive side spokes."

I'm not sure what is meant by this, but it sounds untrue to me. Just think about it, if you tighten all the spokes that are loaded when a driving torque is applied, the spokes in the opposite direction are also going to be tighter too, aren't they? I made a few bicycle wheels, and I have never tried to torque the "drive" and "brake" spokes separately, but I reckon doing so will just give a tiny rotational offset in the hub, for the only counteracting force is that of the remaining spokes.

On the other hand creating dished wheels does generate this effect. The spokes on the cogset side of the wheel will have a greater force on them because of the different angle they are in (as shown in the helpful image in the article liked above). This effect is not relevant when a brake is introduced because it generally does not make the wheel any narrower, so IMHO the quote about the front wheel is just silly. 77.251.186.96 (talk) 18:12, 31 May 2023 (UTC)