Talk:White-bellied parrot

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was no consensus to move. Even ignoring the straight voting (which, though it also showed no consensus to move, is not how we determine things here), the only actual discussion I could find on this topic is several weeks old, lacked consensus, and contained no convincing evidence either for or against the move. -kotra (talk) 23:04, 16 September 2009 (UTC) kotra (talk) 23:04, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

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White-bellied Parrot → White-bellied Caique — Parrots of this genus are popularly known as caiques. The name Caique is immediately recognisable and reduces confusion with other parrot names. Snowman (talk) 10:25, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

• Black-headed Parrot → Black-headed Caique

Duplicate of discussion here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Birds#Parrot_move_suggestions_from_IOC_name_to_non-IOC_name. Voting there copied for reference to here:

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• Black-headed Parrot to Black-headed Caique as suggested by KSB and supported by me. Snowman (talk) 17:37, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

  Oppose. -- Kim van der Linde ^{at venus} 17:39, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

  Oppose. Sabine's Sunbird talk 22:06, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

  Support. --Kurt Shaped Box (talk) 22:45, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

  Support. Snowman (talk) 22:56, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

  Oppose. Maias (talk) 01:06, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

  Support. Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:34, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

  Oppose. We're using IOC names, remember? Natureguy1980 (talk) 04:30, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

  Oppose. —JerryFriedman (Talk) 14:14, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

• White-bellied Parrot to White-bellied Caique as suggested by KSB and supported by me. Snowman (talk) 17:37, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

  Oppose. -- Kim van der Linde ^{at venus} 17:39, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

  Oppose. Sabine's Sunbird talk 22:06, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

  Support. --Kurt Shaped Box (talk) 22:45, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

  Support. Snowman (talk) 22:56, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

  Oppose. Maias (talk) 01:06, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

  Support. Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:34, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

  Oppose. We're using IOC names, remember? Natureguy1980 (talk) 04:30, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

  Oppose. —JerryFriedman (Talk) 14:14, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

• • Above has been copied from Bird Talk page by User:KimvdLinde in this edit Snowman (talk) 14:38, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
  • This voting (on the WP talk page) indicates that this page should not have been moved because there is no clear consensus to move this page. Also, I think that the page move should have been discussed here prior to a page move, so that a wider audience have a change to show their opinions.

  This page was not moved in the first place [1]. So, there is no moving back. -- Kim van der Linde ^{at venus} 15:12, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

  Correct, this is not a move reversal, this is a new move proposal. Snowman (talk) 16:11, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

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Support

1. As I did at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Birds#Parrot_move_suggestions_from_IOC_name_to_non-IOC_name. Consider this as a reiteration of my !vote there, if required. --Kurt Shaped Box (talk) 16:56, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
2. Support, as nominator. Snowman (talk) 09:54, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Still oppose. To open a new vote at a different place seems to me a case of forum shopping just because the nominator does not like the earlier outcome. -- Kim van der Linde ^{at venus} 13:31, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
2. Oppose again , object to forum shopping, Sabine's Sunbird talk 19:33, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
3. happy with IOC names. Maias (talk) 00:06, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
4. Why do we have to vote on all of these 20 times? Natureguy1980 (talk) 16:10, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Discussion

What's with the capitalization? I'd think that this isn't a proper name, and therefore should be uncapitalized. Jafeluv (talk) 23:27, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Bird name are generally capitalized. Once there is a standard name (IOC), it becomes a proper noun. I agree, the propose alternative should be considered a common noun, as it is not an official name. -- Kim van der Linde ^{at venus} 03:36, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

What's with the separate sections for "support" and "oppose"? We don't decide things here by voting, you know. -GTBacchus^(talk) 13:55, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.