Talk:White-winged chough

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Is that just a stray apostrophe at the beginning of the article, or something else? -- Zoe

Anonymous edit about deception came from me - I didn't reason the system had logged me out -- seglea 23:38, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I thought there were three remaining mud nest builder birds, the magpie-lark, the apostle bird and the White-winged Chough. AJS0987643210 (talk) 06:52, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

triple mistake

From the article (note unencyclopaedic style: the conversational digression, the issuing of instructions to the reader, and giving value judgements about different usages of language):

White-winged Choughs are easily recognised but often mistaken for "crows"—a double mistake, as the birds most frequently called "crows" in Australia are actually ravens (see Australian Raven and Little Raven).

The situation is like pigeons and doves (or butterflies and moths). There is no scientific distinction between crows and ravens; they do not form separate clades. Often "Crow" refers to the entire genus, corvus. "Raven" traditionally referred to one particular species (of crow), corvus corax, the common (northern) raven. (That said, "crow" also frequently refers specifically to, depending on location, any one of several common corvus species. "Raven" also tends to appear in the common names of other species believed to be closely related to the common raven, however this is not the case for the Australian Raven which instead is most closely related to local corvus species such as the Australian Crow). FWIW see also [1]. The Australian Raven is a crow, whereas one could argue that it technically isn't a raven. Cesiumfrog (talk) 01:48, 20 April 2014 (UTC)