Talk:White House Chief Usher

Ike Hoover

Hoover worked in the White House for 42 years. He was only chief usher for about 25: Taft to the very beginning of FDR; so he says in his book. But I can't find the exact dates. --Tysto 16:25, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Current White House Usher

I noticed that this article contains possibly conflicting information regarding the current White House Chief Usher. According to the article text, Angella Reid has served as White Chief Usher since 2011, but the article also contains a photo which suggests that the current White Chief Usher is Angela Tennison which raises the questions of if and when Angella Reid resigned as White House Chief Usher, or did she change her name. Any assistance from my fellow Wikipedians in answering the questions I have raised, and possibly updating both this article, and the one I previously created on Angella Reid if needed would be most appreciated. --TommyBoy (talk) 01:29, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Tennison is just a staffer; the photo was taken of her and Obama in the Usher's office--not of the Usher herself. Jeremy112233 ^{(Lettuce-jibber-jabber?)} 17:37, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

The original White House picture caption says, "President Barack Obama talks with Angela Tennison in the Usher's Office of the White House, Oct. 31, 2013." It does not identify Angela Tennison's role, so does not state if she is the Usher or not. The White House Historical Association identifies Angella Reid as the current Usher. I added the picture of Obama and Tennison to illustrate the office, not the incumbent. The caption identifies Tennison clearly as merely a staffer. — O'Dea (talk) 18:59, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Angela Tennison in the picture is not Angella Reid. She does not look like the pictures of Reid online. — O'Dea (talk) 21:19, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for responding to my questions. --TommyBoy (talk) 21:39, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Merger

Hundreds of articles have been created or extensively edited by User: Jeremy112233 who was blocked for socking. I was just reviewing Doorkeeper to the President of the United States, which strikes me as misleading and confuses material that belongs in this article. I will be merging a small amount of material from there into this article and then redirecting it here.

In checking this out I ran into:

Faulkner, Claire. "Ushers and Stewards Since 1800". White House Historical Association. Retrieved September 1, 2017. Originally published in White House History, Number 26, Fall 2009.

which should help us to increase the accuracy of this article. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 15:47, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

I went ahead and merged. It's the 2nd sentence under History. It also include the ref given above. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 16:13, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Capitalization

Note "the president of the United States" is uncapitalized because "president of the United States" is preceded by modifier "the", per MOS:JOBTITLES bullet 3 and table column 2, example 1: "Richard Nixon was the president of the United States." Any proposal for modification to the guideline should be posted at its talk page, WT:MOSBIO. —Eyer (If you reply, add {{reply to|Eyer}} to your message to let me know.) 16:57, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Harleth's Departure in 2021

So a recent edit by @DennisRT47: cited an article in the New York Times that is supposedly at odds with the New Yorker article claiming that President Biden fired Harleth. Unfortunately, the NYT article is behind a paywall and I was unable to view it.

Given that the events discussed were nearly three years ago and a new usher has been brought in, I decided to remove all discussion of Harleth from the lede and just cite Downing as the current usher. If either Harleth or Downing get dedicated articles or if the Trump or Biden articles have sections about their relations with White House staff, I can see the circumstances of Harleth's departure being discussed there. But I don't think it needs to be addressed here unless we create a dedicated controversy section, but I'm not convinced that is appropriate. I don't think it belongs in the lede any more.

If you disagree with this approach, please speak up and we can hammer this out. I want to make sure this article ages well and I think hearing out all voices on the matter is the best way to achieve that. KNHaw ^(talk) 08:22, 31 December 2022 (UTC)