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Could somebody please restore this well-sourced edit?--181.90.197.11 (talk) 03:57, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Not done: According to the page's protection level you should be able to edit the page yourself. If you seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. — JJMC89 (T·C) 05:46, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Comment here, it seems that the edit was not supported by the sources provided. Additionally, the user would likely get reverted anyways per WP:ARBPIA3#500/30. RileyBugz ^会話 _投稿記録 17:13, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

NBC clearely says: "The international Red Cross said Tuesday that Israel has fired white phosphorus shells in its offensive in the Gaza Strip, but has no evidence to suggest it is being used improperly or illegally."--190.31.180.46 (talk) 00:49, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Done. JungerMan Chips Ahoy! (talk) 15:01, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

It is not remotely "well-sourced" and it strains credulity that anyone could believe that. This report preceded the most notorious Israeli WP attack, and was intentionally taken out of context by Israeli spokesmen to claim an exoneration that never happened. This resulted in an explicit disavowal by the same Red Cross officials.

The report has been taken wildly out of context, changed from a garbled contemporary report to something the ICRC now "says" (it doesn't and never did) and conveniently boosted to the very front of the section. Later down in the section it is again cited, this time accurately and in context:

On 17 January, Peter Herby, head of the International Committee of the Red Cross Arms Unit, confirmed the use of white phosphorus weapons by Israel in Gaza, outlined the rules applicable to phosphorus weapons and explained the ICRC's approach to the issue.[40]

There was never any dissenting view or "exoneration" by anyone from the ICRC. There was a slightly garbled media report that was rapidly corrected, but not before it was was cynically taken out of context by Israeli spokesmen. The WP article should not follow their preferred, discredited framing. TiC ^(talk) 23:36, 18 July 2017 (UTC)