Talk:Who stole the cookie from the cookie jar?
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editWhere is this song/game played (i.e. just in the U.S.)? Is it only in English? Is it a traditional song, or did someone write it in recent history? Links and sources would be awesome. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 15:32, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
We played it because our teacher was Canadian (I am in Scotland, and we didn't know it). So definitely not just US.86.174.137.225 (talk) 17:07, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
We played it in Spain too, though the lyrics involve finding out who shat inside the Cola Cao jar, rather than the far more innocent cookie theft, and it's more of a school bus song. 78.30.28.202 (talk) 00:04, 13 November 2018 (UTC) finding reliable info is proving surprisingly hard though, only "source" I've found is a "demotivational poster" meme you wouldn't understand unless you already knew about this. Most other results bring info on Cola Cao, including old advert songs. 78.30.28.202 (talk) 00:04, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
Authorship claims
editThe song/game was invented by Elvia M. Sánchez of Puerto Rico around 1961 while her father was stationed at Schofield Barracks in Hawaii. The Cookie Jar Song was one among others written as part of talent shows she created in which her siblings participated along with other neighborhood children at Eva Beach, Hawaii. She was surprised by the fact that her song had survived after she left Hawaii when she heard it on a TV commercial a few days ago. Elvia Sánchez is my wife. Her sister, Jennie can verify the truthfulness of her claim and so can other children at Eva Beach, who must now be on their late 50s. You may contact me for further information if need be.e—Preceding unsigned comment added by Estequestacatras (talk • contribs) 19:04, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
- I have reverted your attempt to add the material. From Wikipedia:Verifiability, "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—that is, whether readers are able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether we think it is true. Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, or the material may be removed. Wikipedia:Verifiability is one of Wikipedia's core content policies. The others are Wikipedia:No original research and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view." Once you can make the information verifiable in the form of trusted third party sources, then it may be added. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 08:26, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Unreferenced tag
editThere is nothing unverifiable in the article, IMO, and each claim can be covered in the external links provided (i.e. the song's usage, it's lyrics, it's recursiveness, etc). Finding concrete references that can expand on what I've written so far is nearly impossible, I've been finding, and I feel the statements made in the article are covered. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 20:43, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Thought you weren't supposed to nominate yourself?
editWell, the rules don't apply to everyone, I know. --Mattisse 00:26, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- <shrugs> Impatient. Plus, there were no objections, and everyone loved the hook. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 00:46, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- If you are saying that one cannot nominate an article one has written for DYK, then you are very misguided. -- Anonymous DissidentTalk 03:58, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- I think Mattisse is saying that Jeffrey O. Gustafson, who authored the article, shouldn't have made the decision to add it to the actual template to be transcluded on the mainpage. Daniel 06:20, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, yes. No, one should not add their own nominations to the template. -- Anonymous DissidentTalk 06:44, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- I think Mattisse is saying that Jeffrey O. Gustafson, who authored the article, shouldn't have made the decision to add it to the actual template to be transcluded on the mainpage. Daniel 06:20, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- If you are saying that one cannot nominate an article one has written for DYK, then you are very misguided. -- Anonymous DissidentTalk 03:58, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Additional citations
editWhy and where does this article need additional citations for verification? What references does it need and how should they be added? Hyacinth (talk) 08:47, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, there's nothing wrong with this article. What I said nigh-five years ago still stands: I'm removing the tag. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 22:15, 10 March 2012 (UTC)