Talk:Wildcat (DC Comics)

Crisis, what Crisis?

I just wanted to note that I removed a couple of items. The first said that Grant's god-daughter (Yolanda Montez) didn't exist during the Crisis; this would tend to complicate all of her subsequent post-Crisis appearances. Second was a reference to Identity Crisis which added nothing to the article. I would rather see someone add some info about Ted's appearances in Birds of Prey or Catwoman as they are probably a lot more important. Korvac 17:35, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Well, the only thing I could find in re-reading CRISIS was that Yolanda seemed to not know Ted. She was there, no doubt, but this conflicts with her being Ted's god-daughter. However, to almost No-Prize it, it could be said that once the continuities were rebooted as of issue 11, she was retconned into his god-daughter. Does that make sense?Vito Delsante 17:25, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Inspired by Batman?

It's tenuous at best to say that Wildcat is a "Batman inspired hero." In the comics, he was inspired by a Green Lantern comic. In reality, I suspect that Harry Donenfeld saw the success of Batman and wanted to repeat it. Heck, Bill Finger, the co-creator of Batman, created Wildcat (with Irwin Hasen) so it's possible...I'm just wondering what the implication is...inspired within the comic or inspired in creation? Vito Delsante 22:01, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

A few people are busy today creating all kinds of new categories for superheroes, including this one. The criteria and/or need for many of them is questionable at best, in my mind. CovenantD 22:09, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

    Batman was definitely an indirect influence on Wildcat as that name was one of those, I think, Jerry Bails saw on Bill Finger's notepad, which contained a list of proposed names for the still undeveloped "Robin" concept! Bob Kane and Jerry Robinson had decided on the name "Robin" so I believe Finger saved "Wildcat" for later reworking. Irwin Hasen was brought in due to his experience in the world of boxing. This last part I read in an issue of Filmfax but don't recall the issue or year.MARK VENTURE (talk) 23:31, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

another weird one

I don't think Wildcat would be considered an orphan. He was raised by his father at least until his teens Vito Delsante 01:20, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I know for a fact that he was raised by his father, Henry Grant (shown on the very first page of the Wildcat story in Sensation Comics #1).Vito Delsante 17:25, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Wildcat and Hippolyta

The era that Hippolyta and Wildcat had an affair may have technically taken place in the John Byrne era, but the readers do not know anything about the relationship the two shared until Diana goes back in time herself disguised as Miss America in the Phil Jimenez era. Artemisboy 20:15, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

The phrasing needs to reflect that. Right now it's technically correct because it was during Byrne's run that Polly went back. CovenantD 20:22, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

True. Artemisboy 20:30, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Cat Students

I was thinking an addition of students of Wildcat might be helpful to reflect his influence on the the rest of the DCU.

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Stretch Skinner

I came to this article hoping to learn just how much effect Wildcat's comic relief "sidekick" Stretch Skinner had on the strip (did he, for example, ruin it as "Percival Popp, the Super Cop" did The Spectre?). Having read an early 70s reprint of his debut, these questions were big in my mind. However, not a word, other than to say that one of Ted Grant's two corrupt managers had that very surname. A check at the GCD revealed to me that Stretch debuted in what was just Wildcat's fourth story, and further, that despite having "(I)" for "Introduction" there, they indicated him in the first two stories as well, no doubt a case of multiple indexers confusing the manager with the sidekick. It's difficult to pass off that surname usage as editorial/writer indifference, not that close together, especially if the manager character did indeed appear in the second story as well, leaving just one intervening issue. The fact, however, that Stretch debuted as early in the run as he did and isn't talked about any more than he is does indicates that his effect was not very negative. The GCD does, in fact, list him right up to Wildcat 's final installment in Sensation #90, albeit with increasing sporadicness(?) in the feature's later years. Stretch really should be mentioned in the "Earth-Two" sub-section, but I certainly don't know enough about him to do the job properly, especially the relationship, or lack thereof, to the corrupt co-manager Skinner. Somebody, please! Ted Watson (talk) 20:13, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Catwoman box

Why is it under "Wildcat" and why is Halle's totally not Selina Kyle under portrayers? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.225.184.29 (talk) 06:54, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Split

I believe this article should be split between the various Wildcats. Lots42 (talk) 02:33, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

And I believe this even more now, that is, Yolanda, Ted and Ted's son should have unique articles. Lots42 (talk) 08:44, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Expert rewrite

As it is now, this article needs to be heavily rewritten by an expert on the topic. Lots42 (talk) 09:05, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Publication History Needs to be added

This article is missing the character's publication history, as such this should be added to the article.--Paleface Jack (talk) 16:27, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Portrayal on Arrow

I've recently removed a sizable chunk of the bit detailing (ad infinitum) the portrayal of the character in Arrow. It is far too much. Trim it down? Yes. Leave it as is? No way in hell. I warned folks that a mighty cleaving was coming if no trimming was done. As it hasn't been done, the cleave has happened.
If you disagree, talk it out here. It cannot return to the article in its present form. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 05:10, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

No. The material you have deleted has removed important information from what role he plays in the show. Now it just reads as "* Ted Grant appears in the third season of Arrow, portrayed by actor J.R. Ramirez. Grant runs the "Wildcat Gym" as place to help kids on the streets by helping to steer them right by training them to box." That is far too short to give an accurate summary of what he does, and makes it appear like he's just some regular boxing guy, with no mention of what role he played. Also, please don't WP:EDITWAR. SuperCarnivore591 (talk) 05:16, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Okay, first of all, it was removed twice. Were you under the mistaken impression that reverting it back in again was going to look like anything but edit-warring? I warned you weeks ago that it was heading for the trash heap, and you did nothing. It's out for good reason. Don't put any of it back in until we've sorted this crufty mess out.

Secondly, all we need in the article for the tv bit is that information which is necessary for an understanding of the portrayal. It is not meant to be a blow-by-blow synopsis of the characterization. We don't do that here at Wikipedia. If you want to edit it to be a lot more concise, feel free. Maybe even do that here, so we can arrive at an agreement, and avoid any further confusion. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 05:43, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Thirdly, I have seen the incremental edits you have made to the section after reverting it back in. They are not enough. You need to cite everything to a reliable source, and cannot use your personal opinion (ie, "a younger version"). Find someone that describes the things you want and use that. You cannot be cited as a source. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 05:46, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

I've got an idea. Let's mention that he runs the boxing gym, and trains Dinah on how to fight, or box. I think that is an accurate description without the plot bloat. SuperCarnivore591 (talk) 05:53, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

I could live with that. If you can find references to the actor's choices in the portrayal, that would be most excellent, as it happily removes the in-universe issues that these types of articles are rife with. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 05:59, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Question about his powers

I thought his nine lives thing was sort of a cycle. That Wildcart's weakness was being killed nine times SWIFTLY. If you shot him once and left, he will recover. If you continuing shooting him, he's dead. Lots42 (talk) 15:45, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Wildcat's immunity to mind-control is referred to on another page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-Humanite). Presumably it should be added here as well to avoid confusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.21.65.197 (talk) 20:35, 20 June 2020 (UTC)