Talk:Wildfire suppression

Possible Clean Up Needed?

I am not sure. This page seems to be mostly long lists and little article detail. It certianly could use some improvment, should I tag a "Clean Up?" --ShortShadow 05:11, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

I'd say so. For such a long article, there is barely any real information.

Requested move

Wildfire already exists and is well-developed (by me, so I might be biased). However, according to naming conventions, "use the most easily recognized name." I'm not sure many people outside of the wildfire business would be able to identify the US term "Wildland fire." MrBell ^(talk) 20:34, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Agree with move, and beyond just being a U.S. term, 'wildland fire' is a structural fire service term for brushfires. It wasn't used much in the forestry, and parks and land management, fields who did most of the major wildfire suppression, which historically is part of forestry and land management work and had little relationship at all to urban structural firefighting until recent years. The term is now common in the U.S., but only because interface zone fires have made interaction between the two more the norm. 96.239.151.131 (talk) 10:39, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

New Fire Use Article

This article needs a lot of work. I tried streamlining the history portion but with the amount of info about fire use, it might warrant a page of its own. I'll try finishing tweaking the article as I find the time. Beantwo (talk) 02:53, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

More ideas for expansion

"San Diego has followed the national trend of cutting out local voices in favor of national syndicated programming to save money, but that raises serious questions about how quickly the public would be served during an emergency, such as a wildfire.

“The more disconnected ownership of media is to the community, the more disastrous the result,” Bartholomew said, adding that the quality of local news is declining with consolidation. He cited a now-infamous example. In North Dakota, a train wreck released poison gas. Clear Channel owned all six stations, which were broadcast out of state. Local and state emergency authorities tried to reach broadcasters to air warnings to the public, but were unable to contact them. “The result was one death and more than 1,000 injuries,” Bartholomew observed."[1]

Bushfire CRC: Assessing Aerial Suppression Drop Effectiveness MrBell ^(talk) 18:02, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Still More

Overall a way better article with fire use/history moved. I might suggest bringing back at least part of the United States portion with the other two countries. Beantwo (talk) 22:12, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

I've done just that, although I also renamed the branched off article to illustrate the fact that it solely describes wildfire suppression from a United States POV: history of wildfire suppression in the United States. Hope this helps, María (habla conmigo) 21:10, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

A major element needs some sort of reference or link (updated)

About the following sentence:

Prevention of this situation is reinforced with two training protocols, Ten Standard Firefighting Orders and Eighteen Situations That Shout Watch Out, which warn firefighters of potentially dangerous situations, developed in the aftermath of the Mann Gulch fire.

I recently noticed that the article lacked any link or reference for these protocols. On sites like Wildfire Today, these protocols are sometimes referred to; they are called the "10 & 18" for short. Therefore, the existing situation was unsatisfactory. I tried adding a link to this external page which says what the "10 & 18" are, and a little about how they developed. My link was reverted by User:Zackmann08 who said, "external link doesn't go in article body". I'm not sure how to provide a link or reference, without having at least one other editor consider my attempt to be a violation of some Wikipedia policy or editorial standard. However, simply undoing my edit isn't sufficient. So we need to fix the article somehow. How? Oaklandguy (talk) 08:25, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Update: I'm trying to provide same info, but as a footnote rather than an external link. Is this OK? Oaklandguy (talk) 04:47, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

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Renewal of sources for this field.

Some of the citations do not work as readers do not have access to the scientific journals, like citation 23, while others do not exist at all, like citation 24, which cites page 144 of the book which does not exist at all, and citations 15 and 16, whose websites do not exist anymore. A lot of these information are dated, and go back to 2007-2008. In the decade that has passed, some of these fire fighting techniques and strategies might have evolved, and therefore renewal of this site should be looked into as the original authors have made a good job consolidating all the information, and anyone interested can help to update them. Quikshot (talk) 07:00, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

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