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Sentence moved from wildfire

Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I've taken out this sentence from the lead of wildfire. It seemed specific to the U.S. to me so perhaps it fits here (but I am suspicious as so many refs are used): "Aggressive wildfire suppression aimed at minimizing fire and ending traditional land management methods practiced by indigenous peoples has contributed to accumulation of fuel loads, increasing the risk of large, catastrophic fires, especially in certain colonial contexts like the United States.^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]^[5]^[6]^[7]^[8]^[9] ^[10]^[11]^[12]" EMsmile (talk) 12:06, 2 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

References

^ Busenberg, George (2004). "Wildfire Management in the United States: The Evolution of a Policy Failure". Review of Policy Research. 21 (2): 145–156. doi:10.1111/j.1541-1338.2004.00066.x.
^ Parisien, Marc-André; Barber, Quinn E.; Hirsch, Kelvin G.; Stockdale, Christopher A.; Erni, Sandy; Wang, Xianli; Arseneault, Dominique; Parks, Sean A. (2020). "Fire deficit increases wildfire risk for many communities in the Canadian boreal forest". Nature Communications. 11 (1): 2121. Bibcode:2020NatCo..11.2121P. doi:10.1038/s41467-020-15961-y. ISSN 2041-1723. PMC 7195457. PMID 32358496.
^ Marlon, J. R.; Bartlein, P. J.; Gavin, D. G.; Long, C. J.; Anderson, R. S.; Briles, C. E.; Brown, K. J.; Colombaroli, D.; Hallett, D. J.; Power, M. J.; Scharf, E. A.; Walsh, M. K. (2012). "Long-term perspective on wildfires in the western USA". Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. 109 (9): E535–E543. doi:10.1073/pnas.1112839109. PMC 3295264. PMID 22334650.
^ Parks, Sean A.; Miller, Carol; Parisien, Marc-André; Holsinger, Lisa M.; Dobrowski, Solomon Z.; Abatzoglou, John (2015). "Wildland fire deficit and surplus in the western United States, 1984–2012". Ecosphere. 6 (12): art275. doi:10.1890/ES15-00294.1.
^ Kolden, Crystal A. (2019). "We're Not Doing Enough Prescribed Fire in the Western United States to Mitigate Wildfire Risk". Fire. 2 (2): 30. doi:10.3390/fire2020030.
^ Ingalsbee, Timothy (2015). "Ecological fire use for ecological fire management: Managing large wildfires by design". In: Keane, Robert E.; Jolly, Matt; Parsons, Russell; Riley, Karin. Proceedings of the Large Wildland Fires Conference; May 19–23, 2014; Missoula, MT. Proc. RMRS-P-73. Fort Collins, CO: U.S. Department of Agriculture, Forest Service, Rocky Mountain Research Station. P. 120-127. 73: 120–127.
^ Haugo, Ryan D.; Kellogg, Bryce S.; Cansler, C. Alina; Kolden, Crystal A.; Kemp, Kerry B.; Robertson, James C.; Metlen, Kerry L.; Vaillant, Nicole M.; Restaino, Christina M. (2019). "The missing fire: quantifying human exclusion of wildfire in Pacific Northwest forests, USA". Ecosphere. 10 (4): e02702. doi:10.1002/ecs2.2702.
^ Schultz, Courtney A.; Thompson, Matthew P.; McCaffrey, Sarah M. (2019). "Forest Service fire management and the elusiveness of change". Fire Ecology. 15 (1): 13–. doi:10.1186/s42408-019-0028-x.
^ Pyne, S. J. (1996). "Wild Hearth A Prolegomenon to the Cultural Fire History of Northern Eurasia". Fire in Ecosystems of Boreal Eurasia. Springer Netherlands. pp. 21–44. ISBN 978-94-015-8737-2.
^ "Colonization, Fire Suppression, and Indigenous Resurgence in the Face of Climate Change". YES! Magazine. Retrieved 2021-02-19.
^ Norgaard, Kari Marie; Worl, Sara. "What western states can learn from Native American wildfire management strategies". The Conversation. Retrieved 2021-02-19.
^ Kimmerer, R. W.; Lake, F. K. (2001-11-01). "The Role of Indigenous Burning in Land Management". Journal of Forestry. 99 (11): 36–41. doi:10.1093/jof/99.11.36 (inactive 28 February 2022). ISSN 0022-1201.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: DOI inactive as of February 2022 (link)

Misleading graph showing acreage burnt

Latest comment: 3 months ago3 comments3 people in discussion

According to https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/oct/15/heartland-institute/no-wildfires-werent-bigger-1920s-and-30s-today/, the first graph on this page is misleading, as the early counts suffer from double or triple counting by different government agencies, and are mostly incendiary (intentional) fires. Ntean (talk) 05:35, 12 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

The Heartland Institute is notoriously unreliable on issues related to climate change (includes wildfires), so that institute's critique isn't a convincing reason to remove the chart. However, presumably you're referring to File:US Burn Acreage 1916-2010.png, which is now 13 years outdated and may be argued to be obsolete. It may be obsolete but provides a longer-term perspective, so I'm neutral on retaining or deleting it. —RCraig09 (talk) 18:12, 12 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

The graph implies areas of the size of a typical state burned each year in the past. Measurement methods were inconsistent until the 80s, and now https://www.fs.usda.gov/managing-land/fire/wofambrief/firestats only goes back to 1983. https://www.carbonbrief.org/factcheck-how-global-warming-has-increased-us-wildfires/ has another fact-check on the graph. Paculino (talk) 05:51, 9 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wiki Education assignment: Introduction to Policy Analysis - Summer Session23

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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 6 August 2023 and 8 September 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Airbear42 (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Airbear42 (talk) 20:19, 20 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

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[1] Busenberg, George (2004). "Wildfire Management in the United States: The Evolution of a Policy Failure". Review of Policy Research. 21 (2): 145–156. doi:10.1111/j.1541-1338.2004.00066.x.

[2] Parisien, Marc-André; Barber, Quinn E.; Hirsch, Kelvin G.; Stockdale, Christopher A.; Erni, Sandy; Wang, Xianli; Arseneault, Dominique; Parks, Sean A. (2020). "Fire deficit increases wildfire risk for many communities in the Canadian boreal forest". Nature Communications. 11 (1): 2121. Bibcode:2020NatCo..11.2121P. doi:10.1038/s41467-020-15961-y. ISSN 2041-1723. PMC 7195457. PMID 32358496.

[3] Marlon, J. R.; Bartlein, P. J.; Gavin, D. G.; Long, C. J.; Anderson, R. S.; Briles, C. E.; Brown, K. J.; Colombaroli, D.; Hallett, D. J.; Power, M. J.; Scharf, E. A.; Walsh, M. K. (2012). "Long-term perspective on wildfires in the western USA". Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. 109 (9): E535–E543. doi:10.1073/pnas.1112839109. PMC 3295264. PMID 22334650.

[4] Parks, Sean A.; Miller, Carol; Parisien, Marc-André; Holsinger, Lisa M.; Dobrowski, Solomon Z.; Abatzoglou, John (2015). "Wildland fire deficit and surplus in the western United States, 1984–2012". Ecosphere. 6 (12): art275. doi:10.1890/ES15-00294.1.

[5] Kolden, Crystal A. (2019). "We're Not Doing Enough Prescribed Fire in the Western United States to Mitigate Wildfire Risk". Fire. 2 (2): 30. doi:10.3390/fire2020030.

[6] Ingalsbee, Timothy (2015). "Ecological fire use for ecological fire management: Managing large wildfires by design". In: Keane, Robert E.; Jolly, Matt; Parsons, Russell; Riley, Karin. Proceedings of the Large Wildland Fires Conference; May 19–23, 2014; Missoula, MT. Proc. RMRS-P-73. Fort Collins, CO: U.S. Department of Agriculture, Forest Service, Rocky Mountain Research Station. P. 120-127. 73: 120–127.

[7] Haugo, Ryan D.; Kellogg, Bryce S.; Cansler, C. Alina; Kolden, Crystal A.; Kemp, Kerry B.; Robertson, James C.; Metlen, Kerry L.; Vaillant, Nicole M.; Restaino, Christina M. (2019). "The missing fire: quantifying human exclusion of wildfire in Pacific Northwest forests, USA". Ecosphere. 10 (4): e02702. doi:10.1002/ecs2.2702.

[8] Schultz, Courtney A.; Thompson, Matthew P.; McCaffrey, Sarah M. (2019). "Forest Service fire management and the elusiveness of change". Fire Ecology. 15 (1): 13–. doi:10.1186/s42408-019-0028-x.

[9] Pyne, S. J. (1996). "Wild Hearth A Prolegomenon to the Cultural Fire History of Northern Eurasia". Fire in Ecosystems of Boreal Eurasia. Springer Netherlands. pp. 21–44. ISBN 978-94-015-8737-2.

[10] "Colonization, Fire Suppression, and Indigenous Resurgence in the Face of Climate Change". YES! Magazine. Retrieved 2021-02-19.

[11] Norgaard, Kari Marie; Worl, Sara. "What western states can learn from Native American wildfire management strategies". The Conversation. Retrieved 2021-02-19.

[12] Kimmerer, R. W.; Lake, F. K. (2001-11-01). "The Role of Indigenous Burning in Land Management". Journal of Forestry. 99 (11): 36–41. doi:10.1093/jof/99.11.36 (inactive 28 February 2022). ISSN 0022-1201.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: DOI inactive as of February 2022 (link)

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