Talk:Will Venable/GA1

GA Review

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I'll get some comments up shortly. Apterygial ^talk_stalk^{insane idea} 02:35, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Initial comments

Overall it looks pretty solid. Some minor points though:

• "Major League" is alternately "major league" in some places. Should this be consistent, or are you using it independent of the proper noun? The Major League article itself appears quite consistent.
  • Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:47, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
• The article needs a {{persondata}} box as it is a biography (I think).
  • I tend to forget to add this template.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:47, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
• "He is the twenty-fifth Princeton alumnus to play in the major leagues, but he is the first African-American alumnus.[1]" You shouldn't really mention anything in the lead that you don't mention anywhere else, in this case it's clear because you had to cite it. Could you mention it in the article as well with the cite, removing the cite from the lead?
  • O.K. Thanks for the careful eye.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:53, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
• "He grew up travelling around the country with his father and even lived in Japan and the Dominican Republic." The "even" isn't needed. "also" could work.
  • O.K.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:58, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
• I would repeat cite 11 so that it covers the first two sentences of the College section. At the moment those two sentences look uncited.
  • O.K.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:00, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
• "Princeton recruited him as a basketball player, and he did not play baseball as a Freshman, but his father had directed him to the Scott Bradley, Princeton University baseball team coach during his recruiting visit." This sentence is quite long and hard to follow. Try "Princeton recruited him as a basketball player. He did not play baseball as a Freshman, but his father had directed him to Scott Bradley, the Princeton University baseball team coach, during his recruiting visit." Seems to flow better.
  • O.K.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:03, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
• "In basketball, he averaged over 10 points per game and over 30 minutes per game each year in his 2002-03 sophomore season through his 2004-05 senior season." Don't need "per game" the first time, no the "each year", so "In basketball, he averaged over 10 points and over 30 minutes per game in his 2002-03 sophomore season through his 2004-05 senior season."
  • O.K.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:20, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
• Is it likely that Batting practice will have a page?
  • It seems like it should have an article, but maybe there are no good secondary sources.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:07, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
• "He posted modes numbers in his first season, but in 2004, he hit .344," I don't understand any of this. Is there something you can link this to in order to explain it?
  • Are you talking about the typo or additional context, which I added?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:24, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
    • Both. I looked at "modes numbers" and my brain shut down. I thought it was some baseball term I didn't know about. But fixing that and adding the link gets you out of jargon territory. Apterygial ^talk_stalk^{insane idea} 06:44, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
• "Subsequently, the Padres drafted him in the seventh round (215th overall)" Needs a full-stop (period).
  • Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:26, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
• "Venable posted a .314 batting average," Now batting average is linked. Move the link to the above section.
  • Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:30, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
• "That season he tied for the MWL lead in runs scored and led Padre farmhands in a variety of statistics." "Variety" sounds a little amateurish. Can you give examples of what he led?
  • How is that?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:43, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
• A few places need non-breaking spaces, such as ".385 batting average" (and related bits), "134 games", "10 points", "30 minutes" and so on. There are quite a few places that I spotted just looking at it.
  • I think I got all of them, but I might have missed a few.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:35, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
    • I got one more. That part of the MOS is pretty vague. Apterygial ^talk_stalk^{insane idea} 06:45, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
• References seem fine.

Apart from that (and it is a lot less than it looks) the article is good. I'll put it on hold and allow these problems to be adressed, and then I'll be happy to pass the article. Apterygial ^talk_stalk^{insane idea} 03:35, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Looks good to me.

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Good read, well written, well referenced. It's pretty clear you know what you are doing here! Apterygial ^talk_stalk^{insane idea} 06:55, 3 December 2008 (UTC)