Talk:William Bradford (printer, born 1663)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Wil540 art (talk · contribs) 18:45, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Comments:

• The article could expand upon and clarify Bradford's life between 1700 and his retirement in 1743
•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:03, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

• • When/what was the last book he published?
•  Done - Researched this extensively and could not find that.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 22:33, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

• • When did he hand over the reigns of his printing business and to whom?
•  Done At retirement. To Henry De Foreest. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:15, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

• • How long did he work for the governments of NY and NJ?
•  Done It's in the article. NY="three decades" and NJ=1703 until 1721. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:58, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

• • When he retired in 1743, what job was that from?
•  Done = New York Gazette newspaper. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:58, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

• Add a gallery of images of the works of Bradford? There are a number of maps of his on commons.

@Wil540 art: I will be glad to make a gallery of works, however I can't seem to locate those maps you mention. Can you give me a clue under what Category they might be in. Thanks --Doug Coldwell (talk) 22:54, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

@Doug Coldwell: I was mistaken on the extent of the content on commons. There is this map which appears to be commissioned by Bradford: A Plan of the City of New York from an Actual Survey Made by James Lyne, 1728 MET DP210604.jpg The cover pages of New-England’s Spirit of Persecution Transmitted to Pennsilvania and Pretended Quaker Found Persecuting the True Christian-Quaker and The Laws & Acts of the General Assembly for Their Majesties Province of New-York are in public domain but not uploaded to commons. The images can be seen in this online exhibition. --Wil540 art (talk) 23:27, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Mid life

• "He was associated with William Penn and George Fox; founder of the Quakers." This statement could be extended and explained more or left out entirely.
•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:25, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

• "He published a booklet in 1689 composed by Quaker missionary George Keith titled The Presbyterian and Independent Visible Churches in New England, according to historian Isaiah Thomas that owned a copy was the oldest known book printed in Philadelphia." Second half of this sentence is awkward and confusing, perhaps it can be cleared up or made into two sentences.
•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:38, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

• "This incident was an early test of freedom of the press, for the people of Pennsylvania should have been allowed to know their rights and privileges with their laws." The phrasing of this sentence is off and unclear.
•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:46, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

• "He had sent his wife and two infant sons to England and was making preparations to follow to become the replacement printer for Sowel who had died." Was he doing more than being the replacement printer? Wasn't he taking over his whole business?
•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:00, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

• "Bradford is best known as the founder of the press in the Middle colonies of the Thirteen Colonies." A clarifying word or two would help. the ___ press? The first press? The busiest.
•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:19, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

• "He was located in five different locations in New York City." Awkward phrasing.
•  Done Copy edited accordingly. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:25, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

• "Some of the works composed by Keith's cohorts hurled against the Quakers" This could be expanded upon and explained a little. Where was the anti-Quaker sentiment coming from?
•  Done Removed this material as I am not capable of answering that. I got the idea from here. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:51, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

• "He was the governor's printer in the province of New York for three decades." Between what dates? This could be expanded upon considering the depth and detailing of his similar position in NJ.
•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:51, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

• "He was in this post until 1718 and paid a salary of between £20 (1718) (equivalent to £2,940 or US$3,750 in 2019)[30] and £30 (1718) (equivalent to £4,420 or US$5,640 in 2019)" Salary range could be shortened and averaged.
•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:10, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Later life and death

• "Bradford published the first number of the New-York Gazette on October 16, 1725, the first newspaper printed in the province of New York[33] and printed it between 1725 and 1744." Awkward phrasing.
•  Done copy edited accordingly. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:56, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

• "He was interred in the Trinity Churchyard Cemetery on Wall Street in Manhattan." Is he still interred there?
•  Done There is nothing in the source that says otherwise. Put in the article the inscription of his tombstone that is still there. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:52, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Bradford printing legacy

• Is this the most clear title for this section? Perhaps a change to Bradford family printing legacy
•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:06, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

• "He trained several apprentices that including John Peter Zenger, James Parker, Henry DeForest, and his son Andrew Bradford; who was himself the person that originated four generations of printers and publishers." Awkward phrasing, unclear what the second half sentence is supposed to mean.
•  Done Copy edited accordingly. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:07, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

That's all I see. --Wil540 art (talk) 20:24, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for review. I'll start working on the issues. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:45, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

• @Wil540 art: All issues have been addressed. Can you take another look. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:06, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

• @Doug Coldwell: Very nicely done. Just re-read the whole article. Great research and editing. Interesting subject. Once again, great job fleshing this article out with solid sources. You edited every issue I brought up. Perhaps one day if a collection of his printed material gets uploaded to commons, a gallery could be added. HNY! Will promote now. --Wil540 art (talk) 00:23, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

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