Talk:William Thomas (MP for Old Sarum and Downton)

William was MP

This William Thomas is identified, on his biography in the History of Parliament Online in the volume for 1509-58, with the William Thomas who was MP for Old Sarum and Downton. I have discovered a separate stub article William Thomas (died 1554). I am proposing to add the details to this page, with citation to the HOP article.Cloptonson (talk) 19:15, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Requested move 24 December 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: page moved to William Thomas (MP for Old Sarum and Downton). Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 13:58, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

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William Thomas (scholar) → William Thomas (died 1554) – The current title is ambiguous with a half dozen other scholars. Additionally, I don't know that there is a "dominant qualifier" (as the term is used by WP:NCPDAB) for this subject as he appears to be just as notable as a politician and courtier. (If moved, William Thomas (scholar) will need to be redirected to William Thomas and the links updated accordingly.) Graham (talk) 04:13, 22 December 2022 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Polyamorph (talk) 09:36, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

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• @Graham11: It looks like (from the William Thomas dab list) that (scholar, died 1554) might be a better dab for this. Would that be acceptable? UtherSRG (talk) 11:54, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

  @UtherSRG: Is "scholar" the dominant qualifier here, or is the subject equally (or perhaps more) notable for his political role? (WP:NCPDAB provides, For historical figures for whom there is no dominant qualifier (at least no practical one), the descriptor may be omitted in favour of a single use of the date of birth or death.) Graham (talk) 20:30, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

  There are several qualifiers which could be used for this person, year of birth is sometimes regarded as a last resort, at any rate I don't think this is uncontroversial. PatGallacher (talk) 13:42, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

  What do you suggest, PatGallacher? Graham (talk) 20:30, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

• Comment there are 7 scholars listed at William Thomas, so I agree it's not currently a helpful dab. IMO the (died 1554) dab suggestion is reasonable although perhaps considering a consistent form would be helpful to disambiguate each William Thomas. Polyamorph (talk) 09:40, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
• Support some move, ambiguous and per views[[1]]. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:31, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose as proposed, but would support William Thomas (scholar) → William Thomas (MP for Old Sarum and Downton) or simply William Thomas (scholar) → William Thomas (MP for Old Sarum) if it is indeed the same man (see Talk:William Thomas (scholar)#William was MP, above). The parenthetical qualifier form would be analogous to those used (under William Thomas#British politicians) for William Thomas (MP for Ludgershall), William Thomas (MP for Carnarvon) or the redlink (with no bluelink) William Thomas (MP for Caernarvonshire) (died 1586), English politician. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 03:30, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
• Move to William Thomas (MP for Old Sarum and Downton) per Roman Spinner. Seems the best disambiguator for recognition, even if it's slightly wordy.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:00, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

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