Talk:William Winstanley Hull

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 20:11, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that William Winstanley Hull's search for the original manuscript of the 1662 prayer book is credited with leading to its discovery? Source: Greenhill, W. A.; Matthew, H. C. G. "Hull, William Winstanley". Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (online ed.). Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/ref:odnb/14111. (Subscription or UK public library membership required.)
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Euan Duthie, Lord Duthie

Created by Pbritti (talk). Self-nominated at 17:51, 13 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/William Winstanley Hull; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Review underway... Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 10:03, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
  • Started in a sandbox on 12th January, moved to mainspace the following day and nominated immediately. >4KB of readable prose, and rated correctly at B-class. High-quality sourcing used from subject-matter experts and ODNB, which I have checked using my online access. Everything is cited correctly and accurately. No issues with close paraphrasing/copyvio. Hook fact is clearly stated in the ODNB biography and is suitably interesting. Perhaps the circumstances of the manuscript's discovery could be added to A.P. Stanley's article. QPQ review has been done.

@Pbritti: Thank you for (another) article about an interesting character. Verified and ready to go. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 11:22, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Sawyer-mcdonell (talk · contribs) 19:53, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

• Hey, @Sawyer-mcdonell: just a heads up that this next week (Monday 4 March—Friday 8 March) is one where I'll be working extended shifts of 9 AM to 10 PM Eastern Time (US). As such, there's a high likelihood that my responses will be delayed. I should still have opportunities to respond to any comments and I'll still have access to the sources in question, though. Thanks again for launching the review! ~ Pbritti (talk) 06:34, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

  No worries! sawyer * he/they * talk 19:35, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Assessment

Well-written

• the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct  Passed
• it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation
  •  Comment: I think I'd split the "biography" section into "early life", "career", and "personal life and death". Having a list of works would be helpful as well, and would fill out the article nicely!

Verifiable with no original research

• it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline  Passed
• reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose)
  •  Comment: no major concerns, especially as there are fewer than 10 sources. Text-source integrity with the sources I could access is good. Are the Jasper 1954 & Bradshaw 1971 sources online at all?
• it contains no original research  Passed
• it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism  Passed

Broad in its coverage

• it addresses the main aspects of the topic
  •  Comment: In certain respects a high tory and ultra-protestant, Hull joined Sir Robert Inglis's committee formed in 1829 to oppose the return of Robert Peel as MP for Oxford University, and a pamphlet he wrote in 1829 opposed the admission of Roman Catholics or Jews to parliament. (from the Oxford National Biography) - I think this could be a good thing to add; it gives more context to his views on liturgy, and it's an interesting contrast with his later defense of William George Ward. I think note 3 could be moved to the body of the text.
• it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style)  Passed

Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each  Passed

Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute  Passed

Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio

• media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content  Passed
• media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions  Passed
  •  Comment: I wish there was a portrait or something of him, but alas I couldn't find anything on Commons or elsewhere. The picture of Brasenose is a nice touch!

@Pbritti I've finished my initial review; this is one of the fastest GAN reviews I've done because the article is quite short and concise, which is pleasant. I've got a few suggestions before I formally pass it. Excellent work! sawyer * he/they * talk 20:25, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

@Sawyer-mcdonell: Wow, you move fast! I know it's a short one, but I'm still impressed. Ok, to your comments:

• Regarding links to Jasper 1954 and Bradshaw 1971, I found Jasper. However, no one has uploaded Bradshaw as far as I am aware; I ended up shelling out an embarrassing amount for my copy two years ago so I'm more than willing to share the relevant page if needed (it's only about three paragraphs with one or two extended quotations from the proposed ordination rite).
• I opposed the reorganization of the article when another BOLDly did it a bit ago, but it would seem I'm outvoted on it–all for the best! I'll do that shortly.
• I'll add the 1829 parliamentary committee and opposition to Toleration in, as you're right in that they definitely add to the coverage. I'll also move note three to the body.
• The lack of illustration has been annoying me, too. According to a New Zealand library (yes, I know that's out of left field), there's a possible caricature of him from a newspaper cartoon. However, the Hull depicted is more likely his father, John Hull (physician). In any case, the image hasn't been digitized at a high enough resolution.

Thanks again for the prompt review. Expect the GAN comments to produce results shortly! ~ Pbritti (talk) 20:48, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Ok, done working through the comments! ~ Pbritti (talk) 00:13, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Lovely! (Since you're busy this week I figured I might as well do the review today, as I'm doing the GAN review drive & have a bunch of other article reviews lined up.) I was mainly just curious about the offline sources, since they seem like the kind of thing that would be difficult to find; I've used a lot of offline sources (via local library) for some other projects. The article looks excellent now; congrats!! sawyer * he/they * talk 00:16, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

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