Talk:Winchester, Virginia

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Thread begun in 2005, discussing whether Civil War history is relevant enough to Winchester to merit inclusion...

Just wondering if it's true Wincheste, VA, changed hands total of 72 times during USCW. If so, include on Civil War page? Trekphiler 08:28, 28 December 2005 (UTC) I have lived in Winchester since 1978, and I have heard that it changed hands many times during the Revolutoinay War, not the Civil War. There is a museum here where George Washington had a headquarters during that war.

The article says there was a German immigrant named Jost Hite. I don't know anything about him, but for five years I lived on Joist Hite Place, so I suspect that is the correct spelling. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.62.225.214 (talk) 07:29, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

There are several spellings since he was German and migrated. The most common accepted spelling is Jost Hite. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rdeyerle (talk • contribs) 18:05, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to wikipedia. Here we draw a major distinction between untraceable hearsay, and published sources. I'm not seeing anything in this thread but the former, but nothing personal. Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 14:04, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Medical School

There is currently no medical school in Winchester and I removed the reference for now. If the sentence was referring to the 19th century school it needs more clarification. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.77.126.50 (talk) 03:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Issues: 1) Don't we mean west of the BLUE RIDGE mountains, not the Apps? It's barely at the foothills of the main body of the Apps. 2) Viewpoint in the Civil War section is blatantly biased toward the Confederacy. Seriously, it's bad. Kyraven (talk) 00:23, 2 March 2008 (UTC) You think it's bad? You don't know what bad is, Buddy. Try living here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.111.93.53 (talk) 01:38, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

I agreed with the blatant bias towards the Confederacy in the Civil war section - it reads really badly, but I don't feel qualified to fix it up. So I added a neutrality warning to the section. MM. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.128.97 (talk) 18:17, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm a local native, and this article is, or was, fair and balanced. The "bias" towards the Confederacy might be, and hold on to your boots, because Winchester was IN the Confederacy for crying out loud. As far as a medical school, everyone not only knows about the old Medical school the Yankees burned down wantonly, but Shenandoah University runs a medical/nursing school and has part of their campus right next to the big regional hospital here. It is really annoying when people not from this area start editing and throwing on tags, and don't know what they are talking about. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.161.21 (talk) 17:58, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Clean up

I weeded out most of the external links - some I converted to references, some I got rid of as they were for places or things not mentioned in the article and did not meet WP:EL. The links for the newspaper and TV station are still in - I think they would work better as refs for a media section but do not know the city well enough to make such a section. I also cleaned up the headers a bit per WP:HEAD and tried to remove duplicate historic sites (things listed both in the NRHP section and the Historic sites section following that). I also moved the images out of the gallery. Apologies for any errors, please fix if I made any. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:30, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

The picture of Washington is actually Napoleon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neko Hibiki (talk • contribs) 13:30, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

It's Washington. Click on the picture and read.MartinezMD (talk) 14:59, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

It is indeed a young Washington. Coal town guy (talk) 01:56, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Independent City

It says in the article that Winchester, VA is an "independent city" and the county seat of Frederick County. However, in the article of "independent city", under "United States", it says that an independent city does not belong to a county. Would someone please clarify this? Raztus (talk) 21:43, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

OK, let me give this a shot. Winchester is an Independent City and technically its own county. But, awhile back (not sure how long) Winchester was part of Frederick County and is the County Seat of Frederick County. So when it became an Independent City, it remained the County Seat.

Virginia is an odd little state, where Independent Cities can be County Seats while at the same time being seperate from that county. It is also the only state (with the slight exception of Maryland with Baltimore City/County) that has Independent Cities.

Hopefully this helps answer your question, but to be honest, I have lived in Virginia all my life and I still don't totally understand the Independent City thing. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 21:54, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply! I emailed the contact given on the Winchester website and received this prompt response:

The City of Winchester is independent of Frederick County. Winchester received its town charter in 1752 and then became a city in 1874 and in Virginia, cities are independent localities. However, Frederick County’s offices are housed in Winchester, along with their courts in a judicial center built jointly by the two localities in the mid-1980’s.

A good place for more information about the area is the Winchester-Frederick County Historical Society’s website at http://www.winchesterhistory.org/index.htm.

I'm not sure he was correct in saying that "all cities are independent localities", but his response clarified that Winchester is still the county seat because the county offices are located there, even though it is an independent locality

-Raztus (talk) 04:25, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Removed biased section

I removed the section referring to Union atrocities during the occupation of Winchester. While I have no doubt that atrocities occurred, the section in question was written in an obviously biased POV and totally unsourced. I have no problem if a properly written and sourced section regarding Union atrocities is readded to the article. Safiel (talk) 22:51, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

This was not a "biased" section, these things actually took place. Please look for sources, don't delete whole sections all "willy-nilly". - NeutralHomer • Talk • 22:57, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

The only "bias" here is from user Safiel, who is bushwhacking this page unnecessarily. The atrocities which occurred in Winchester are stamped in bronze plaques, stones and monuments all across town, on signs in the museums and so forth. If every last phrase and word needs to be reference, creating lists of hundreds of references for articles, the greater nature of Wikipedia is violated. I believe this is a tactic (calling for ad naseum references) by user Safiel in order to create his/her own POV. Someone please add whatever material was deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.161.21 (talk) 17:53, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Thomas Lord Fairfax

I grew up in Winchester and always assumed that the title of "lord" Fairfax was in fact a title yet on his grave marker at Christ Episcopal Church I was pretty sure that it was listed as just his middle name and not a title per se. Does anyone have any insight on this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pswanson1126 (talk • contribs) 21:16, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Thomas Fairfax, 6th Lord Fairfax of Cameron it's a title. Not sure what the grave marker meant.MartinezMD (talk) 23:11, 22 April 2015 (UTC)